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Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Rosie on July 02, 2013, 05:28:09 PM
Well, I've been working all day. But really right now all I think we (as AZXC and as residents of Arizona) can do is donate to one of the funds out there and keep the families and coworkers in our thoughts. Maybe when the fire is completely out (hopefully very soon) we can lend our assistance in a more physical way if need be, cleaning up if they call for help, etc. so they know the off road community appreciates these kinds of efforts.

The situation is still very fresh. Should surf around and see if any of the other Arizona clubs have started anything in response.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Jack5885 on July 02, 2013, 07:27:24 PM
I think Rosie's idea isn't bad. Helping out cleaning up would probably be better than just straight cash. I do think we should do something, no matter how small, to show our support.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on July 02, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
It certainly is a tragedy and my heart and prayers go out to the families of the firefighters. 

That said, I am not sure what you are looking for from AZXC.  We can certainly start a donation pot for anyone who is interested and I think AZXC could match up to a certain amount. 

I normally see AZXC funds as paid by members for members, and there are many worthwhile causes to support regularly.  That said, I don't see it as AZXC's mission to regularly fund charities, after all the club is defined as a none profit for the use of raising membership funds, AZXC is not a charitable none profit.  That said, I think we should put it to a vote.  If AZXC members would like to make a donation to the families of this tragedy and believe AZXC should match the donation, I have no problem putting that together. 

Any other thoughts?     
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on July 03, 2013, 09:29:31 AM
While this is a great idea, coordinating an event as I am sure you already know is a pretty big commitment. I know I am new here but I think simple is better. The best way to figure this out, in my opinion, would be to contact one of the larger Non-profits and see if they have other needs besides monetary.

I'm sure there are events we can volunteer our time as a group to help and get exposure for the non-profit as well as the club. One place to check would be the 100Club, they are always doing fundraiser events, perhaps they have something we can fit it in with.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on July 03, 2013, 06:30:20 PM
You're the president Avi come up with ideas for something.

Even of it's going to Costco and buying a bunch of cases of water and having a caravan of Xterras deliver the water to the camp site of the fire fighters that are still out there would be something!

Maybe instead of trying to blow all the funds for an AZXC party, make a sacrifice and donate it to these families!

As for other vehicle clubs in AZ that I know, the clubs donate lots of money to a charity of their choice and do 50/50 raffles for them.

Organize a trail run if some sorts with an entry fee of like 10 or 20 bucks and all money goes to the families. Get the Toyota and Jeep folks involved as well and make it and AZXC run to raise money for a good cause!

Ever hear the term monday morning quarterback?
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Rosie on July 03, 2013, 07:38:39 PM
Avi and Vince run the club just fine, yeah you ran it too for a time Marcin but it wasn't perfect then either just because you were in charge.

It's pretty bold to just come out and accuse AZXC of essentially not caring for the victims of the Yarnell Fire. Of course we care, but not all of us can help or donate or anything. Everybody is different. It doesn't change the fact that we all care because these sorts of events affect our club's activities. So don't accuse of us of not caring, it's a dick move. Those firefighters do more good than I ever have, I applaud them and feel for them and their families. Get off your high horse and quit telling us how to spend club money, in no way have we "blown the funds" on a party. Last I checked our club is also quite a bit smaller than the Jeep, Toyota, and other clubs out there in Arizona.

You say you want to stick around and enjoy AZXC still even though you sold your truck, then you post shit like this and start arguments and I really have no clue why you want to stay.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: PitSnipe (Kyle) on July 03, 2013, 08:06:25 PM
Avi and Vince run the club just fine, yeah you ran it too for a time Marcin but it wasn't perfect then either just because you were in charge.

It's pretty bold to just come out and accuse AZXC of essentially not caring for the victims of the Yarnell Fire. Of course we care, but not all of us can help or donate or anything. Everybody is different. It doesn't change the fact that we all care because these sorts of events affect our club's activities. So don't accuse of us of not caring, it's a dick move. Those firefighters do more good than I ever have, I applaud them and feel for them and their families. Get off your high horse and quit telling us how to spend club money, in no way have we "blown the funds" on a party. Last I checked our club is also quite a bit smaller than the Jeep, Toyota, and other clubs out there in Arizona.

You say you want to stick around and enjoy AZXC still even though you sold your truck, then you post shit like this and start arguments and I really have no clue why you want to stay.

I feel the same way as Rosie. I haven't been a part of the club for very long, but since I joined You Marcin stepped down for whatever reason and Avi took over. Avi has done a damn good job running the club. Since you stepped down and then sold your rig all I've seen on here from you is your bitching. Everyone is different and nobody is going to run the club the same way as you. This club has a lot of potential and Avi is leading it in the right direction.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Rosie on July 03, 2013, 08:16:15 PM
Half of Rosies statement is true!

My statement was huge, what half is true we'll never know...

You can post your opinion all you want, just have more sense about it man. Of course AZXC cares about the fire.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Rosie on July 03, 2013, 08:38:13 PM
Show me where I said the club doesn't care about the fire.  When you find that let me know.

When you assume things you know what happens!

I didn't say you said those words exactly, I'm just trying to point out that that's how you came across. Just because we haven't come up with a billion ideas yet on how to help, doesn't mean we don't want to. I have no doubt people are willing to assist, but the fire isn't even completely contained right now. To band together and drive up there with a bunch of trucks would be more of a hindrance than anything I believe, with a wildfire less 50% contained I have a feeling they'd just want us to turn around and leave for safety reasons. When things calm down more, I'm more than willing to help out. Some things take time.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on July 03, 2013, 10:20:07 PM
Maybe you can run the club yourself Avi since you take away admin rights like candy as well.

Good luck growing the club.

Just some words of advice, when you regularly delete my comments, expect to loose your admin rights. That is abuse of power and I won't tolerate it.  I am not deleting your comments, what gives you the right to think you can delete mine?
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on July 03, 2013, 10:30:00 PM
Half of Rosies statement is true!

My statement was huge, what half is true we'll never know...

You can post your opinion all you want, just have more sense about it man. Of course AZXC cares about the fire.

Show me where I said the club doesn't care about the fire.  When you find that let me know.

When you assume things you know what happens!

The half that's true is the work the Vince has done.  He has busted his rear end. Avi on the other hand has been propped up by everything and everyone's work and takes the credit for it. That's what bothers me and it's time I speak up because I have nothing to lose!

That's right Marcin, who changed the password to the info@azxterraclub.com account, stating he would take care of it, and then didn't bother checking it.  I found members that joined a month ago that you never added to the list or anything.  You have some nerve. 
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Jack5885 on July 04, 2013, 12:29:06 AM
If AZXC is going to be a "premier club" then what we really need are nice people who help out and don't constantly b***h about other people and things. Most of what I hear that comes out of your mouth is hate Marcin and we can't have that in our club. Go play with your 600 camaro friends.

Back to the tragedy,
Maybe Avi can get in touch with the FJ and Jeep guys and organize something together where all the offroaders get together and help out. Big support from an entire community of offroaders would really help out I think.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Slapshotking09 on July 04, 2013, 12:30:44 AM
I can get in touch with a buddy from the AZFJ club. Have him on speed dial and he's my dealer for Aurora LED Light Bars as well.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on July 04, 2013, 02:54:52 AM
If AZXC is going to be a "premier club" then what we really need are nice people who help out and don't constantly b***h about other people and things. Most of what I hear that comes out of your mouth is hate Marcin and we can't have that in our club. Go play with your 600 camaro friends.

Back to the tragedy,
Maybe Avi can get in touch with the FJ and Jeep guys and organize something together where all the offroaders get together and help out. Big support from an entire community of offroaders would really help out I think.

Thanks for the support.

I definitely support anything the club can come up with and think this would be a great opportunity to work with another club.  I will see what I can come up with.   
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: remo1991(Brent) on July 04, 2013, 07:46:16 AM
Hello guys I have been watching this tread and I'm very disappointed. This tread is not about who did what who hasn't it's about tragedy and how we can help. So let's get this back on track and see what we can do.

Just an FYI I think Avi, Marcin Vince and Rev have all done a great job turning AZXC around this year. I'm pretty sure it was a group effort not a one person deal. So let's do what we always do and just have fun.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: AZXterra410 on July 04, 2013, 02:05:41 PM
I will be the dick and say it. I think donating club funds would be a big waste of money.

The event garnered national attention, a couple hundred bucks from us wouldn't even be noticed.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: AZXterra410 on July 04, 2013, 02:07:22 PM
Also I didn't hear anyone rallying the troops to donate to the Colorado wildfires that destroyed entire cities. Just because this one is in our state means it is more important in some way? I dont find that to be the case.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: remo1991(Brent) on July 04, 2013, 05:07:52 PM
I feel bad about this but as Andrew said we can't do much and a few 100 bucks isn't going to do much
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: AZ-Ted on July 05, 2013, 12:41:24 AM
I think our resources could be put to better use.  We are an offroad club, and we use the public lands that this fire was on(some of this fire was on AZ State land).  We should consider a volunteer project (planting seedlings, rebuilding trails, etc) to benefit the lands that these brave men and women were protecting.  We obviously would not be allowed in the burned areas anytime soon, but once it is opened, we could help out.

I will honor these firefighters on my own, and I do not expect, nor want, the club to do anything in this regard on my behalf.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on July 05, 2013, 10:15:24 AM
Hey guys,

I got a referral from a PR friend of mine who works with the 100Club. If you are interested, please send a quick email from the forum to Ciara@100club.org to see if there are unique opps to help. Tell her Charlotte Shaff referred you.

Let me know, I would have emailed her myself but it would be more professional if someone with a forum email or an admin/mod would do it. IMO
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Rosie on July 05, 2013, 02:01:04 PM
Well, we have nowhere near 50 active members, let alone 50 trucks to bring up $100 each.

I know what you're getting at, but I agree with Ted. We should donate our time and effort in something a little more physical once everything cools down and the area is starting to open back up. We use those trails, we should show the families of the lost that we appreciate the efforts to keep that land safe by helping to restore them physically. Driving up there and donating money just doesn't show the same support, IMO. I'm sure once the fire is completely contained/put out, we'll hear more news on land availability and can move on from there. That's the type of support I believe AZXC should lend, seeing as we are an offroad-based club.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: AZ-Ted on July 05, 2013, 02:08:29 PM
It's funny everyone is wanting to sit back and relax. The attitude of azxc just makes me sick!

Seriously?  Don't you have better things to do than stir shit up?
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Rosie on July 05, 2013, 02:10:56 PM
It's funny everyone is wanting to sit back and relax. The attitude of azxc just makes me sick!

And how many fire fighters died in the CO fires last year?

This is an AZ fire, 19 AZ based fire fighters died, and is the AZ Nissan Club?  If a couple hundred bucks is a small amount then get off your ass and raise some more!

Not all of us can just donate a couple hundred bucks, as much as I would like to that's half my paycheck. I want to help, but I can't monetarily. So forgive me for caring but being unable to do anything about it right yet, and I know for sure that there are others in the club that feel the same and are in the same situation. THIS attitude of yours makes me sick.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: Jack5885 on July 05, 2013, 02:17:27 PM
I'm with Rosie and Ted. We should help replant trees and rebuild trails out there, or whatever the forest service needs most. If you have the extra money to do so, donating some money would also help out but shouldn't be the main focus.


Marcin, if you don't like how the club is run, don't keep coming back to complain. You should have stayed president if you wanted it run your way.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: AZXterra410 on July 05, 2013, 02:59:18 PM
This is an offroading club Marcin, not some social advocacy group. I dont think the club should get involved. Id rather our dollars to go something like Treadlightly or events put on by our members.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on July 05, 2013, 03:04:36 PM
My idea in,

my head was that if the group contacted the 100club they might have events we can volunteer at. They do what I would call boot drives and such...and car washes or other type stuff all year long. I am sure they have some thing unique we can use our resources for.

If people want and can do what Marcin is offering then great but I feel the consensus is to use our offroad superpowers to do something rather than just put hands in peoples pockets.

I believe there are lot's of ideas we could come up with that involves us and others who enjoy offroading.

Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: AZXterra410 on July 05, 2013, 03:31:29 PM
When I donate money every year it is to pay for club functions, events, raffles whatever.

I don't donate so the club can donate to disaster relief. If I wanted that I would just give the money directly to Red Cross
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: remo1991(Brent) on July 05, 2013, 03:48:10 PM
Wow still at it. Give it a rest.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: AZ-Ted on July 05, 2013, 10:03:13 PM
Actually since it's an off road club you want to support those who give you access to those trails. Like te BLM and forest service. As an off road club you want to be in the good graces of those groups.

I suggested taking a bunch of cases of water to the current fire fighters and thanking then for their service but everyone is stuck on the other ideas.



For everyone's knowledge:  AZXC works with the BLM and the USFS on trail cleanups.  We usually go to at least one major cleanup each year (usually held at Table Mesa (off the I-17) or at 4 Peaks Rd (off SR-87).  We also donate money each year to TreadLightly! to help us keep the trails open.  Some of the individual members of AZXC volunteer each year (1st weekend in August) with the Marine League Charities (Toys for Tots, Wounded Marines, etc).  And I volunteer for the OHV Ambassadors (volunteer arm of a joint BLM/USFS/AZ State Parks organization that helps with trail maintenance, trail monitoring, and outdoor enthusiast education.

I can assure you that we, as a club, are held in high regard with the various federal and state agencies because of all the volunteer work that we do.  Volunteering has been a mainstay of this club for many years.  Some clubs donate Money, but we donate something with much more value:  Time.  This is where we can make the biggest impact, and this is where we should focus our club's humanitarian efforts.
Title: Re: Yarnell Fire Dept Tragedy
Post by: sunny1881 on July 06, 2013, 09:16:40 AM
Here is a run coming up, it will benefit some charities and the Yarnell tragedy, it is $20 a rig to benefit multiple things, there is a raffle, giveaways, prize packs and more. I will be there, hope to see other AZXC'ers make it.

For everybody's information Backroad to Crown King Trail does have some difficult obstacles but 90% have bypasses and any 4wd (even stock) X can do this trail, we got a 2wd Titan through it in the snow in the past.

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