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Title: Installing a lift
Post by: Hausaufgaben on December 02, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
Hi you guys, I am planning on buying the required items to get a lift for my 01' Xterra and was wondering if anyone wanted to help me out with installing it.  I was given the general info on how to do it from another member and it seems easy enough, but I'd feel comfortable if anyone would be able to actually BE there with me.  Of course I'd do all the work, I'd just like it if someone makes sure I'm doing it correctly and don't forget something.

I know there's going to be a mod day someday, but I was hoping to get it done BEFORE that (I'd like to use mod day for a lights installation) and since it doesn't seem TOO difficult to do a 1 1/2 - 2 inch lift, I don't think it'll take a long time. 
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: WHPIVxterra on December 02, 2013, 06:41:09 PM
when you thinking of doing it? and where you doing it?
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on December 03, 2013, 02:00:36 AM
Depending on schedule we may be able to work something out, though I have never done a 1st gen.  This week is crazy busy as I'm going to ASU game! Nothing planned the 14th as of yet though. 
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Slapshotking09 on December 03, 2013, 03:28:02 PM
Im always down. Have a date in mind?
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Hausaufgaben on December 04, 2013, 08:47:18 AM
Oh dang, well I'm going to be ordering them pretty soon, I guess it depends on WHEN they arrive, but most likely the weekend after I get it.  But like I said, I'm waiting for them to send them my way.
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on December 04, 2013, 08:53:54 AM
What kit are you getting?
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Hausaufgaben on December 04, 2013, 09:11:54 AM
Hmm well that's the problem right now.  I was ordering a kit but when I called them, they told me they were out of the kit or something along those lines, so I'm currently searching for some more.  Having trouble though, they have a TON of 05'-12' Xterra lifts, but so far not much for an 01' but I have to keep searching right now.
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: sunny1881 on December 04, 2013, 09:20:33 AM
Here you go:

https://ruggedrocksoffroad.com/nissan-xterra-d22-d40-lift-kits-suspension-c-42_454.html?osCsid=f41nfho507g4gb34np0svsru66

http://www.calmini.com/model.php?m=1&b=1&t=1

https://www.4x4parts.com/nissan/suspension-c-435.html

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1388167,parttype,7549

I dont know exactly what your looking for but Steve (owner) at Rugged Rocks is the man, very nice and knowledgable and can and will get you whatever you need (he can get more than just what is listed on his website), I highly recommend calling him and picking his brain to get what you want/need.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Hausaufgaben on December 04, 2013, 09:30:24 AM
Okay thank you, I'm going to have to look through and see what I can and can't afford :)
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on December 04, 2013, 09:59:02 AM
Keep in mind Rock Auto is a sponsor and they give all AZXC members 5% off when you use code 0C467D9DC32E
Title: Re: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Rosie on December 04, 2013, 11:24:23 AM
Well, what lift are you doing exactly? A body lift or suspension/PML?
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Hausaufgaben on December 04, 2013, 12:05:51 PM
That's what I'm trying to find out.  I went on a trip with a couple people, and one of the guys I went with told me he had an 01' Xterra as well and that they're easier and cheaper to do a lift than the newer gens.  He said all I need to do is torque something near the two front tires and then actually install or replace the bolts or screws near the rear tires and that's pretty much it.  I've been trying to get in contact with him, or with the Lead coordinator I was with, to see if I can get more information.

Sorry I can't give you more info, we talked about it briefly and since it was like 4 days ago, I can't remember if we discussed a body lift or suspension lift.  I was just searching online for the prices, and wasn't actually expecting people to want to help out with the lift so quickly.
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Jack5885 on December 04, 2013, 12:24:20 PM
What you're looking for are shackles. These are pretty good ones: https://www.4x4parts.com/nissan/xterra-rear-lift-shackles-p-145.html (https://www.4x4parts.com/nissan/xterra-rear-lift-shackles-p-145.html)
Thats about it for the cost, although you will NEED a tire alignment when you're done.

If you can afford a bit more, an add-a-leaf is also an option.
http://www.calmini.com/detail.php?b=1&m=1&t=2&p=437&n=
 (http://www.calmini.com/detail.php?b=1&m=1&t=2&p=437&n=)

Both of those are for the rear axle and then you turn the torsion bars up front to change the lift up there.
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Hausaufgaben on December 04, 2013, 12:32:03 PM
lol i didn't know there was so many lift options but that EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT!  Thank you Jack!  Seriously I REALLY appreciate that link and info, because I don't think I'd be able to get a hold of the member I was talking to!  I'm going to order these right now:

https://www.4x4parts.com/nissan/xterra-rear-lift-shackles-p-145.html

So if anyone has any experience in this, I'd appreciate the help and then also to change the lift.  And like I said, if anyone wants to help out (as it seems people do), it'll be the weekend AFTER it arrives.
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: WHPIVxterra on December 04, 2013, 01:43:14 PM
def order those shackles.  They are the same ones I have.  As for adjusting the torsion bars up front, "all I need to do is torque something near the two front tires", Do some research on clubxterra or come down to tempe area and I can hook you up.  I have the PML and a 2" BL so if you are looking to do either of those I can help you out.  It's always nice to have an extra set of hands while doing stuff with springs and shit.
Title: Re: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Rosie on December 04, 2013, 02:29:30 PM
Personally if I could do it all over I would have chosen the adjustable shackles that are in the 3" suspension lift package. Not the AC ones that I put on and that you guys linked to. My leafs are almost completely flat now, so instead having to buy new shackles and leafs down the road I could've just ordered new leafs. But its up to you.
Title: Re: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Hausaufgaben on December 04, 2013, 02:49:30 PM
def order those shackles.  They are the same ones I have.  As for adjusting the torsion bars up front, "all I need to do is torque something near the two front tires", Do some research on clubxterra or come down to tempe area and I can hook you up.  I have the PML and a 2" BL so if you are looking to do either of those I can help you out.  It's always nice to have an extra set of hands while doing stuff with springs and shit.

Hahaha yea he told me more in detail on how to do it, but like I said, it was 4 days ago and also it was when we were having dinner so we didn't have a lengthy discussion on it.  The one I linked is the one I just bought.  And I'll have to consider coming down!  Even though it's a LONG drive to Phoenix, it could be worth it if I can't find someone around here. 

Personally if I could do it all over I would have chosen the adjustable shackles that are in the 3" suspension lift package. Not the AC ones that I put on and that you guys linked to. My leafs are almost completely flat now, so instead having to buy new shackles and leafs down the road I could've just ordered new leafs. But its up to you.

How long did it take for them to wear out?
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Jack5885 on December 04, 2013, 02:50:42 PM
Agreed my leafs are pretty flat now too. Thats a problem with shackles. If you can afford a good add a leaf like the calmini or a new leaf pack, that is a better option for typical driving, IMO. The shackles do offer much better articulation (aka more vertical travel) when off road, however. Its all about compromises and what you can afford.

It took like 6 months for me to really start noticing how flat my leafs were getting. But it depends on your truck. Some leafs dont flatten out much at all.
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Hausaufgaben on December 04, 2013, 04:06:31 PM
Hmmm lol well we'll see.  I can easily afford the more expensive Calmini ones, but I don't want to be tight on money since I'm going on a trip possibly next weekend and I have some things I need to buy.  But I'll see how these hold up and HOPEFULLY it'll last more than 6 months!  That's nothing!  And what does it do if it gets flat?  Does it start sagging in the back or something?
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Slapshotking09 on December 04, 2013, 04:19:16 PM
Yes, xterras have problems of sagging asses. They flatten out over time and shackles don't help without an add-a-leaf. Shackles/Add-a-leafs (AALs) are "bandaids" for rear suspension.

I would rather do a suspension lift than body lift. I'll help with either though. Body lifts just take longer and are a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Hausaufgaben on December 05, 2013, 08:39:13 AM
Yes, xterras have problems of sagging asses. They flatten out over time and shackles don't help without an add-a-leaf. Shackles/Add-a-leafs (AALs) are "bandaids" for rear suspension.

I would rather do a suspension lift than body lift. I'll help with either though. Body lifts just take longer and are a pain in the ass.

Not only is it a pain in the ass, but it's super expensive and I'd like a leaf kit and shackles to begin with before I move up to more things.
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Hausaufgaben on December 13, 2013, 09:30:45 AM
I'm going to hold off on getting an add-a-leaf because I looked at the price and it's going to be $225 with shipping, and even though I can afford it, I don't want to shell that out because I'm purchasing some items from another member on this forum.  But maybe in a month or so, I'll buy the add-a-leaf.

Edit: Also, even though Slapshot told me he'd help with the shackles, he's REALLY far away 300 miles round trip and I'd like to see if I can find someone close to me who wants to.  I ordered the shackles on the 3rd of this month, and I haven't been sent the tracking number so I don't think they've sent it yet, so I don't have a time frame of when I might be receiving the shackles.
Title: Re: Installing a lift
Post by: Hausaufgaben on December 30, 2013, 01:15:55 PM
Hi you guys.  I finally got my shackles in, and was wondering if anyone near Flagstaff is willing to help me out with installing them.  I have weekends off so Sat 4th and Sun 5th would be the best date for me.  If anyone is down and knows of a place to do this, I'd appreciate it.