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AZ Trail Info => Easy Trails 1.0-2.0 => Topic started by: unamused on February 09, 2014, 05:17:19 PM

Title: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: unamused on February 09, 2014, 05:17:19 PM
Hey All!  This past Sat I headed out west of Phx to check out a 2WD friendly trail and ended up running Big Horn Maintain Trail.  The trail has a rating of 2.5 out of 10 for difficulty because you'll need to cross a few sandy washes.  This trail offers beautiful scenery and on a winter morning it is really stunning out there!  My X is a 2006 2WD "S", it has a 2" lift and 275/70-16 BFG AT2s.

To get there take I-10 west to Salome Rd., travel WNW on Salome Rd to Eagle Eye RD, turn right heading N on Eagle Eye Rd 3.8 miles and the trail head is a dirt trail on the right.  If you follow the entire trail you will exit the trail on Indian School Rd., just west of Tonopah and can jump back on I-10 to head back to Phx.

Big Horn Mountains & Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area.  Great place to spend a morning!
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Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: coatimundi01 on February 09, 2014, 07:30:22 PM
Def some pretty country! And holy tall saguaro, wow!
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: unamused on February 10, 2014, 08:03:43 AM
Def some pretty country! And holy tall saguaro, wow!
It was incredible out there early morning, I love the small of the desert in winter! 

That Saguaro is one of the tallest I've ever seen.   :o
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: Ghostrider on July 02, 2014, 09:18:41 PM
What size tires are you running?
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Post by: Clifford3200 on March 29, 2015, 11:02:53 PM
I went out there yesterday in my 2007 stock 2wd S. While it was extremely beautiful, we ran in to a few issues. There were plenty of sharp rocks that blew out my rear passenger tire.
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There was also a point where my rear tires were suspended after a dip that caused my hitch to grab a rock and lift my truck off of power. We were stuck for 4 hours.
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No cell service, no one knew where we were at this point. We sent out distress signals on the cb. And after walking about 2 miles each way my phone found a random and brief 2 bars that could send geo coordinates of out location to my mother via text and the sos feature on my phone. We ended up getting sharp rocks under my tire because with the spinning from previous trial and error moments were now bald and couldn't grip. Spare had plenty of tread. When the sharp rock behind the tire that we figured would eventually wedge it's self in while rocking forwards finally slipped into place I tried reverse and it held up and shot me backwards and out of the ditch. After 4 hours in the hottest time of AZ, middle of the trail, we were free. We have learned a lot of lessons in the past day. Just as a warning to fellow 2wds, this trail has sharp dips and I don't feel it should be rated as a stock 2wd safe trail.

Clifford
2007 Xterra S
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: FirstXRS (Zac) on March 30, 2015, 07:24:16 AM
Oh wow! Glad you're safe now. I've never seen a tire ribbon like that.
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: PitSnipe (Kyle) on March 30, 2015, 08:00:12 AM
I have been all over that area and I would stand by that trail being a 2wd trail. I think I will update the OP to say that you will need more ground clearance than stock to run in some areas.

Also never hesitate to call a club member if ever in trouble. I'm always available to help. Especially since I'm so far west.
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: Jo-BOB on March 30, 2015, 08:16:55 AM
that tire is crazy, what kind of tires do you have?

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Post by: Clifford3200 on March 30, 2015, 08:56:37 AM
We had no cell coverage for miles of walking. Masaru was there for us if we could get a call through. And I totally agree 2wd, just not stock 2wd. I have prodigy hts, street tires

Clifford
2007 Xterra S
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: Jo-BOB on March 30, 2015, 11:50:20 AM
Time for some aggressive all terrains, some more flex.
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Post by: Clifford3200 on March 30, 2015, 12:46:38 PM
Yeah. They're practically bald, gushy notice until then

Clifford
2007 Xterra S
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: remo1991(Brent) on March 30, 2015, 02:25:35 PM
make sure you always have your safety gear especially when you wheel alone ( which i don't recommend any way) Glad you guys made it out ok and a bit wiser. 

-   Full size spare tire, in good condition and preferably of the same size and type as the other tires.
-   Jack capable of lifting the vehicle & tool capable of removing lug nuts (including key for any locking lug nuts).
-   First Aid Kit, and any personal medications that you require. The kit that comes with the Xterra is a good start, many have added to theirs with extra items they feel appropriate.
-   Extra food and water, even if only out for a day trip.
-   FRS Radio, with extra batteries / Or a CB (preferably). See below for Communications Protocol.
-   Vehicles should be in good condition, and be well maintained and in conformance with highway safety standards.
-   All vehicles should have recovery points front and rear. Most Xterras have a front tow hook standard; for the rear a Class III receiver hitch can accept a shackle that makes an acceptable tow point. Receiver hitch shackles can be found at most off road supply outlets. A tow hitch ball is not acceptable.
-   Tow strap (no metal hooks).
-   Map(s) of the area.
-   Fire extinguisher.
-   If camping, adequate equipment and food. Even if you don't plan to camp you should always carry what you might need in case it gets colder than expected or you need to spend the night. A blanket or two is always a good idea to have on hand.
-   Flashlight(s) and extra batteries, knife, matches/firestarter, mirror, whistle.
-   Air compressor. Many of the runs in Arizona are to areas where airing down tires can make a big difference in both traction and comfort, and can also aid in avoiding flats. Youíll want a way to re-inflate your tires at the end of the trail. Serviceable compressors can be found for as little as $50 at Costco, for example. Avoid anything that plugs into the accessory outlets inside the vehicle, they wonít have the output you need.
-   Above all, bring a sense of adventure and a desire to go exploring.

Other things that are nice to have:
-   Sturdy work gloves.
-   Shovel.
-   Extra clothing.
-   Minimal camping equipment, even if only out for a day trip (you never know when you might have to spend the night someplace).
-   Folding chair(s) come in handy at lunch stops and in camp.
-   Basic hand tools and supplies.
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: AZ-Ted on March 30, 2015, 03:09:29 PM
Glad you made it out safe, Clifford3200.  Did you have a shovel with you?  I offroad alone all the time, and I always bring a shovel with me in case I need to dig out.

Oh wow! Glad you're safe now. I've never seen a tire ribbon like that.

My guess is the tire failed, and then was driven on for some time until the sidewalls finally started to shred.  Hopefully, the rim is not too damaged.
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Post by: Clifford3200 on March 30, 2015, 03:18:07 PM
I didn't have a shovel, we used my mud flap ish things that go on the front of the rear tire

Clifford
2007 Xterra S
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on March 30, 2015, 10:23:19 PM
Airing down reduces risk of tire damage when traversing sharp rocks.  Que the more you know music. 
Title: Re:
Post by: Clifford3200 on March 30, 2015, 10:49:45 PM
It was as flat as a dirt path home to begin with. We really didn't see a need

Clifford
2007 Xterra S
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Post by: AZ-Ted on March 30, 2015, 11:15:50 PM
I didn't have a shovel, we used my mud flap ish things that go on the front of the rear tire

Clifford
2007 Xterra S

Yeah, when I had my '01 2WD, I got stuck twice.  Once in deep sand and once in deep mud.  Both times I got pulled out by ATVs.  When I got stuck in the sand, I didn't have a shovel with me, and I was digging out by hand for almost an hour before the ATV rode by.  When I got stuck in the mud, there was an ATV nearby, and he came over to help.  Luckily, I didn't need to use the shovel, but I had it just in case.

Other than a shovel, you may want to consider running with a 2nd spare tire.  Wheeling in a 2WD can burn up rear tires quick (due to the extra tire spin needed for certain sections of the trail), and having a 2nd spare can be very useful.
Title: Re:
Post by: Clifford3200 on March 31, 2015, 01:17:48 AM
I'll keep that in mind, but I shouldn't be offroading at all because I can't afford tires in general so an extra spare is nearly impossible right now lol

Clifford
2007 Xterra S
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: Stoic V on March 31, 2015, 07:28:59 AM
I have been stuck twice in my first gen. Both times where when my front diff was acting up, so  I never engaged  4WD.   Once  I was turning around in the desert, and sunk in sand.  I had a hydraulic jack and a shovel with me. I just had to find some old wood in the desert to help me get unstuck. (I took the wood home and now is decoration for my fish tank) The second time, was similar to you.  It was still dark,  early in the morning, and I drove in a rut that was deeper than I thought. I drove to slow through it, and my trailer hitch high centered the back of the truck. I only had my scissor jack and some tools with me.  I had to jack the truck up several times and then use a screwdriver and some rocks to dig my way out.  Both instances took my about 2 hours to get back on track.

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Post by: Clifford3200 on March 31, 2015, 08:55:17 AM
It took four in the hitch, about 1.5for the tire

Clifford
2007 Xterra S
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: powracoustik on April 13, 2015, 09:53:06 PM
wow that totally sucks chica!  well i am very happy youre ok tho!  but i guess now you can start saving up for a set of nice tires! =)
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Post by: Clifford3200 on April 13, 2015, 11:21:19 PM
Yeah, I'm looking into bfg ko2s 285s and a 3" sl

Clifford
2007 Xterra S
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: Jo-BOB on April 13, 2015, 11:47:15 PM
that will for sure change your rig. I dont know anyone running the k02's so i'm interested to see how they hold up. I heard they come with a hefty price tag.

then suspension lift is always expensive if done right haha.
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Post by: Clifford3200 on April 14, 2015, 05:33:16 AM
216 per tire, but I may be getting them cheaper, I'll let you know, and on the Facebook chat, there are a Fer people and that's what gave me the idea, only downside is I need 5

Clifford
2007 Xterra S
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: m.sainz12 on April 14, 2015, 04:20:56 PM
$216 for the redesigned? That's dirt. The new KO2s were Baja 1000 race tested along with other testing.. the new BFGs are definitely the way to go if you for heavy wheeling
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: unamused on May 29, 2015, 02:17:17 PM
Clifford, damn man, glad you got back safe!  When I ran that trail I didn't have any issues, but like I posted, I have a 2" lift and am running BFG AT2 KOs.  I deflate down to about 17psi to smooth out the rough and to stay on top of sand.  I also have air compressor, shovel, gloves, first aid kit, radio, tools, spare hoses, spare belt, oil, trans fluid and trail maps.  If I head out alone I ALWAYS tell a friend or family where I'm going and when I'll be back.  The BFGs I'm running are the old design, they were $220 a piece but they have seriously strong sidewalls, and I currently have 68000 miles on them.  There are better tires around, but these BFGs are great for AZ trails.  Again, glad you made it out safe and you'll love these trails once you have good tires on your rig!!
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: Clifford3200 on June 22, 2015, 06:16:09 PM
Clifford, damn man, glad you got back safe!  When I ran that trail I didn't have any issues, but like I posted, I have a 2" lift and am running BFG AT2 KOs.  I deflate down to about 17psi to smooth out the rough and to stay on top of sand.  I also have air compressor, shovel, gloves, first aid kit, radio, tools, spare hoses, spare belt, oil, trans fluid and trail maps.  If I head out alone I ALWAYS tell a friend or family where I'm going and when I'll be back.  The BFGs I'm running are the old design, they were $220 a piece but they have seriously strong sidewalls, and I currently have 68000 miles on them.  There are better tires around, but these BFGs are great for AZ trails.  Again, glad you made it out safe and you'll love these trails once you have good tires on your rig!!

Thanks, yeah, it was definietly an emotional day. I don't plan to do another trip alone anytime soon. I was looking into BFG KO2's and I was head strong on them but I have found a different set that I really like. But I'm slowly working on recovery gear to help keep myself safe and prepared
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: PitSnipe (Kyle) on June 22, 2015, 08:46:52 PM
We need to all get together and run this trail in 2wd in Honor of Chantel.
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: Clifford3200 on June 23, 2015, 03:43:55 PM
We need to all get together and run this trail in 2wd in Honor of Chantel.

I would totally be up for that, a bit of a redemption run!
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: PitSnipe (Kyle) on October 21, 2015, 07:35:14 PM
This trail has claimed another.

So I've been wanting to run this trail for quite some time now. I missed the Tribute Run and decided to tackle it last Sunday (October 18).

I had told my daughter earlier in the week that we were going to four wheeling on Sunday. She was so excited. So Sunday afternoon we left the house at 3pm and set out for the trail. 2wd trail shouldn't take too long as I thought to myself.

I got out to the trail head about 330pm. Waited for some cattle to clear the trail and made my way. Passed some donkeys and my son waived. We came to the first fork in the road. This is where my day turned. Instead of going right, I went left. I passed trail marker after trail marker and explored along the way. It soon got dark and I couldn't find my way back to the original trail. After two hours of doing circles in the dark I came to the original fork in the road. Do I go right (the way back to the start of the trail) or do I continue the trail to the left? It was maybe 630pm and I thought its supposed to be an easy 2wd trail right? So left I went. With about half of the completed I dropped into a wash and couldn't locate the trail on the other side. I took the wash to the right and saw a Cattle Tank(pond). I knew better than to enter it so I flipped a u turn. As I completed the turn the clay muck grabbed me and wouldn't let go. 730pm I am officially stuck. I tried to dig out with no luck. 830pm I give up, unload the kids, and begin to hike out to find cell service. With my 1.5 year old son in my arms (he's 30lbs) and my 4 year old daughter holding onto my shirt we followed the trail back the way we came. After just over a mile I finally got 2 bars of 1x service. Just enough to call the only person I knew that knew that trail. Luckily Chantel answered and wheels were set in motion. I wanted to keep hiking out, but my daughter became very whiny and my son was getting really heavy. We headed back to the Xterra. That phone call was the only one that I was able to make. The signal was so weak that I couldn't even send out my coordinates. We made it back to the X about 9pm and both kids passed out the car seats. It was eerie how quiet it was out there. Not even the sound of a coyote. I watched the lightning off in the distance and dozed off. I was in and out of it for a while. At 11pm I think I told myself that no one was coming and started making plans of hiking out when it became light out. Roughly midnight I spotted lights coming down the trail. I was half asleep and freaked out. I switched my lights on and started flashing them violently. As the vehicle turned in my direction I could tell it was an Xterra. But who was it. It has Pro4x roof lights. I don't know anyone that has them. The X stopped in front of me and passenger door opened. I saw a figure come towards me. Holy shit it was my wife. She didn't say a word to me and went straight to the kids. Well see now I didn't bring my daughters insulin or blood sugar reader. So she was pissed. I then saw a person emerge from the drivers side. That was the moment that I thankfully got to meet Chuy. We assessed the situation and began digging out more muck from under my X. He brought tread boards and a tow strap. Since I broke my front tow hook off wheeling in Tucson I had to loop the tow strap through the left lower control arm. First pull didn't even budge my X. That was some serious suction my the muck. Second tub Chuy really got behind it. I was free! We stored the gear and decided to go back the way we both had come down the trail. Neat the windmill we ran into Chantel and two members of AZ4x4Club. We chatted and caravanned back to the starting point. 2am we reached the trail head, aired up, took a pic and hit the road. All the way home I had this ridicules vibration over 50mph. Pulled in my driveway at 3am, took a shower and went to sleep. 6am my alarm went off and I went to work. That was the longest day ever. When I got off work I put the X in the air and wow. That clay much was stuck to everything. Every wheel had clay stuck to it causing the terrible vibration. The rear axle looked as if it were cast in a mold. I chipped away with a screw driver and a hammer until most of it was off. Time to go home and get some sleep.

A very special thank you to Chantel for orchestrating the rescue mission and calling my wife. I owe you.
Chuy I cant thank you enough for responding to call. I owe you big time for pulling me out.

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Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: FirstXRS (Zac) on October 21, 2015, 08:34:16 PM
Now THAT is an adventure!

Well see now I didn't bring my daughters insulin or blood sugar reader.

Guarantee you'll never forget it again now, going anywhere.  :)
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: remo1991(Brent) on October 22, 2015, 09:28:00 AM
Ditto

Damn I bet you have a lot of lessons learn from this experience. I'm so glad everything worked out that can be scary with Kids that young. see another reason why the guys at AZXC rock!!!!!

on the lighter side you now have a pretty good pic for Got Mud tread.
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: DBAX on October 22, 2015, 10:08:26 AM
Glad you and everyone there were ok and made it home safely. You still sleeping on the couch, or have you been forgiven yet?  ;)

Another recovery tale in a long and historied book of AZXC helping one another..
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: Chuy on October 22, 2015, 06:43:59 PM
Kyle was just about through the trail, a guesstimate is a little over 1/2 way done. He was stuck in a really bad spot. The area was in a little gully near the end of a wash that was just clay. As soon as I stepped from the mud to the sticky clay it was sticking to everything. I had to drive up a little hill out of the gully to get a good snatch. Here is a picture from the top when I first arrived. It was a smooth recovery and I am just glad I could help out.

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Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: DBAX on October 23, 2015, 08:57:00 AM
Looking at that, I'm reminded of a video I saw recently.. Dude was axle deep in muck, and strapped a log to a tire along the side. Used a rope to thread between the wheel spokes securing the log. As the wheel turned, the log (much larger/longer than the tire and wheel) dug in and picked up the vehicle, propelling it one turn at a time. Very primitive, but effective method when deep in it, and alone.
Something like this- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mqQEO-YIxw
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: Chuy on October 23, 2015, 08:28:08 PM
Looking at that, I'm reminded of a video I saw recently.. Dude was axle deep in muck, and strapped a log to a tire along the side. Used a rope to thread between the wheel spokes securing the log. As the wheel turned, the log (much larger/longer than the tire and wheel) dug in and picked up the vehicle, propelling it one turn at a time. Very primitive, but effective method when deep in it, and alone.
Something like this- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mqQEO-YIxw

Thats awesome, I may have to try that someday for fun. Im not sure if our gnarly AZ desert wood will clear my fenders but definitely worth a shot.

From my experience and in good conscious, I do not consider this a stocker alone 2WD friendly Xterra/Frontier trail. Too many places on this trail where things could go sideways real quick. Lots of dips where you could get hung up very easily. Not to mention the sketchy cell phone reception on most of the trail once you pass the windmill. Theres many other great 2WD/4WD stocker friendly trails to try, Cochran Rd, 7 Springs or Bloody Basin Rd to Sheeps Bridge, Schnebly hill Rd etc. These other trails offer some fantastic views and camp/picnic areas with very little risk besides tire damage. I take my friends in their stock 2wd vehicles on them all of the time with no problems. Kyle's and Chantel's situation was simply bad luck. I have seen literally dozens of built vehicles stuck on very minor obstacles over the years. It can happen to anyone if the stars align for you on that day. I have a ton of my own BSF stories better left for the camp fire after the kids have gone to bed. It has happened to all of us if you wheel enough.

Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: DBAX on October 24, 2015, 09:08:53 AM
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not sure if our gnarly AZ desert wood will clear my fenders but definitely worth a shot.
Showed the video to a coworker and he brought up the same point. I said in that situation, maybe a bundle of sticks/leaves/rocks, a fluids can, anything to provide clearance for the wood from the fenders would be acceptable..

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It has happened to all of us if you wheel enough.
Testify.  8)
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: Chuy on October 27, 2015, 12:19:33 AM
Testify.  8)

Too many to count that I am too embarrassed to post online.
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: DBAX on October 27, 2015, 08:13:15 AM
Haha Chuy, not you in particular.. I meant your statement of it can happen to anyone is gospel. Even a driver in a built vehicle w/ unearthly skills handed down from G-D like myself (  ;)  ) gets stuck every so often..
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on October 27, 2015, 10:35:47 AM
Chuy and DBAX are the picture and videos you posted from Big Horn Mountain and Hummngbird  Springs areas?
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: DBAX on October 27, 2015, 10:39:53 AM
My video certainly is not. I think it's a farmer somewhere in Bulgaria..  :)
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: Chuy on October 27, 2015, 01:46:44 PM
Chuy and DBAX are the picture and videos you posted from Big Horn Mountain and Hummngbird  Springs areas?

Only the night picture where Kyle was stuck. The others are pictures of some other easy trails around the state. 
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on October 28, 2015, 08:42:40 AM
Chuy and DBAX are the picture and videos you posted from Big Horn Mountain and Hummngbird  Springs areas?

Only the night picture where Kyle was stuck. The others are pictures of some other easy trails around the state. 

Let's try not to confuse people. Some one, or no one, may some day look at this for trail info and see the pics posted and wonder where the heck.
Title: Re: Big Horn Mountain / Hummingbird Springs Wilderness Area Trail
Post by: Chuy on October 28, 2015, 07:22:49 PM
Let's try not to confuse people. Some one, or no one, may some day look at this for trail info and see the pics posted and wonder where the heck.

No problem Rob, I removed them. I just realized this wasn't a general discussion thread and an actual trail info thread.