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Title: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Stephen on January 08, 2016, 09:21:21 AM
I'm going to be taking my X out for a vacation my family and I are taking to AZ for a few weeks.  We are going to be there from May 15th through June 1st.  SO, I want to set up a wheeling trip up to Sedona, where we drive up after work on Friday night and camp out, then Saturday, go wheeling all over the area, camp out on Saturday night and I'll provide food for a cookout (probably burgers and dogs, beans, drinks, etc; MAYBE slow cook some ribs while we're wheeling throughout the day).  This will be a kid-friendly event, as I'll probably bring my family with me as well.

Sn0
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: FirstXRS (Zac) on January 08, 2016, 11:26:08 PM
Yes.

For camping, are you looking for backcountry style, or one with facilities?
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Jo-BOB on January 09, 2016, 03:42:38 PM
I'd be interested in going.

firstxrs what kind of back country camping do you know of up there? the campgrounds get horrible when the weather starts to get nice.
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on January 09, 2016, 03:56:46 PM
Im in  8)
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 09, 2016, 06:56:05 PM
Sounds fun, I'm interested.
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Stephen on January 12, 2016, 08:36:44 AM
Honestly, does not matter much to me for the camping.  What is the concensus?  Backcountry or Facility camping?  Facility is nice because you have bathrooms, backcountry is nice because you have no people!

We'll need someone to step up and be a trail leader.  I don't mind leading, but I haven't been out there before, and not sure if a paper map is the best thing for that environment.  I would like the the trails to be 2.0 - 4.0 rated, but again, not sure what's out there and what others' rigs are capable of.  (I'm about to drop mine off for a SOA conversion in the rear, then bringing the front up to 4"+ 1" spacer and limiting straps, fully armored.  By the time I'm out there, I'll be rolling 35" AT tires too.)

Sn0
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: m.sainz12 on January 12, 2016, 12:08:35 PM
Could camp up on Schnebly hill rd
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: DBAX on January 12, 2016, 12:45:08 PM
Reserve creek side spots in Manzanita campground now. Flat spots under old growth trees; picnic tables, fire rings, and pit toilets. Fresh trout to catch (and eat) with modern conveniences nearby (dairy queen and Indian gardens market/café). Sedona wheeling is old hat for locals, but always a pleasure to show off for those who've never been. There's the ubiquitous Broken Arrow trail, Soldiers Pass and Teacup trails. They can be combined for a long day of wheeling, with a lunch stop somewhere in the middle. Greasy spoon and the Oak Creek Homestead is another combo trail ride far less technical. There's some good (excellent) ruins to see too if you're families into that. They'd be separate xcursions from the wheeling, but well worth the visit and hike. Weather should be excellent that time of year too, nice sunny days and warm nights.

ETA- NOT in Sedona, but the back road to Crown King (29 miles, from low desert to over 6000' elev.) then camping in Horse thief Basin is a pretty epic AZ off-road adventure too.
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: FirstXRS (Zac) on January 12, 2016, 01:32:01 PM
firstxrs what kind of back country camping do you know of up there?

Embarrassingly, not a lot. The only real backcountry camping I've done in my time so far in Arizona has been the Payson and Superstition Springs wilderness areas for survival classes (I know, extreme side of the spectrum). I'd love to do more when opportunity provides, but would never inconvenience others for it. I can always camp when I request the time off work to do so  :P.

Until I get some more time and mileage under my belt, I'll tag along for the events to learn as much as I can about our state's recreational opportunities.
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: DBAX on January 12, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
Sedona and back country camping, doesn't really make sense. :)
Anything in Oak Creek Canyon, is in a campground. It's campgrounds, cabins for rent, and VERY expensive homes. Around Sedona, the land is mostly private, and not really anywhere to just pitch a tent and set up a fire ring. Any land you'd drive onto, and stay for a night or two, would most likely be along a Jeep tour path, or in and around hiking trails which are always busy with locals and tourists alike. As noted Schnebly Hill is a 20 something mile graded dirt road that leaves from Sedona and goes up over 1000' to a forested area, but IMO is not someplace I'd settle my family for a night or two if I were to spend my days wheeling far below in Sedona, amongst the red rocks.
Over the years, I've found very few, if any, locales for dispersed camping in Sedona but I'll look into some books about the area when I get home. Wet Beaver creek comes to mind as a possibility, but again, locals and hikers most likely would swarm the area that time of year to take advantage of the cool, clear water to play in.
WBC-
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Yeah, this is kind of what I've been saying.. http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g31352-i168-k3506292-Camping_in_the_wilderness_around_Sedona-Sedona_Arizona.html (http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g31352-i168-k3506292-Camping_in_the_wilderness_around_Sedona-Sedona_Arizona.html)
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 13, 2016, 01:02:12 AM
The only good spot I have found to back country camp in Sedona is about Here (https://www.google.com/maps/dir//34.8974477,-111.9043841/@34.8974408,-111.9041073,359m/data=!3m1!1e3)

It used to be any spot east of 525 was considered "red rock" and camping was not permitted, however last I checked that had all changed.  As a result we always camped on the west side of the road, but now you could do either.  It is still a good 45min-1hr to Broken Arrow and probably 30 min to Soldiers Pass.  Other wise I would suggest a campsite.  I wasn't impressed with camping on Schnebly Hill rd, it runs right next to the freeway and you can hear cars for miles.  Also, the altitude change is so rapid you can't stop anywhere within 10 miles of Sedona to camp.  So by the time you get to the camp site it will be forested, and and you wont be able to see the red rock.   
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Stephen on January 13, 2016, 08:36:26 AM
What trails do you all recommend running then?  I have not been up there except to run a Pink Jeep tour like 15 years ago, so I'm not as familiar with the area.

Can someone put up some options for trails?  That might help us determine where we camp, whether campground or primitive camping.

Sn0
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 15, 2016, 12:08:55 PM
The must run trail in Sedona is Broken Arrow, here (https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Broken+Arrow+Trail/@34.8444612,-111.7568061,17z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0x743d9692b5bb848a) another trail worth running is Soldier Pass, right about here (https://www.google.ca/maps/dir//34.8843358,-111.7838066/@34.8846744,-111.7847133,18.25z) 

Other than that you can explore the red rock area, which is all graded dirt road.  Just know that if you want to stop at the more popular parking/hiking spots, you'll need a red rock pass.  You can get one from the Ranger Station, as well as more info, here (https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Red+Rock+Visitor+Center+and+Ranger+Station/@34.7541251,-111.765852,16.25z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0xfce0e847c29f099d)
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Stephen on January 15, 2016, 12:24:14 PM
The must run trail in Sedona is Broken Arrow, here (https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Broken+Arrow+Trail/@34.8444612,-111.7568061,17z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0x743d9692b5bb848a) another trail worth running is Soldier Pass, right about here (https://www.google.ca/maps/dir//34.8843358,-111.7838066/@34.8846744,-111.7847133,18.25z) 

Other than that you can explore the red rock area, which is all graded dirt road.  Just know that if you want to stop at the more popular parking/hiking spots, you'll need a red rock pass.  You can get one from the Ranger Station, as well as more info, here (https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Red+Rock+Visitor+Center+and+Ranger+Station/@34.7541251,-111.765852,16.25z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0xfce0e847c29f099d)

I know this is a ways out, but are you thinking about making this trip as well?  I've got a buddy that may be flying out from Charlotte, NC to explore out there, and another buddy who may be driving down with his family from Idaho.

Sn0
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: 88high on January 29, 2016, 11:57:15 PM
Hmmm let me see if I can go, I think my graduation is then...
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Stephen on January 31, 2016, 07:07:03 AM
Hmmm let me see if I can go, I think my graduation is then...

Graduation is not important...wheeling is important.

Sn0
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 31, 2016, 07:29:58 PM
I'll be off Friday, but I am scheduled to work both Sat and Sunday that week. 
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Stephen on February 22, 2016, 09:37:08 AM
Hmmm let me see if I can go, I think my graduation is then...

Graduation is in no way important...Wheeling > Graduation

Just wanted to bump this to keep it on everyone's radar!  I'll be heading up to Sedona about 2PM on that Friday, and plan to get there around 4PM.  Anyone else planning on going on Friday?
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on February 22, 2016, 02:44:13 PM
Ill be down to go friday also not sure about camping there though not a big fan of big campsites.
Do we have a planned schedule?
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Stephen on February 23, 2016, 12:03:12 PM
As we get closer, I'm going to rely on folks that have wheeled the area and know it better than me.  I'm down for camping anywhere, as I'll have a cot tent that I'll setup with a few other incidentals.

Anyone want to step up and help create the camping location for Friday and Saturday AND the route we'll take for the wheeling trip?

Sn0
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on February 23, 2016, 12:19:47 PM
As we get closer, I'm going to rely on folks that have wheeled the area and know it better than me.  I'm down for camping anywhere, as I'll have a cot tent that I'll setup with a few other incidentals.

Anyone want to step up and help create the camping location for Friday and Saturday AND the route we'll take for the wheeling trip?

Sn0

If you are for sure heading to Sedona, then there are lots of camp sites. Many of us prefer the non-pay sites, or at the least the FS sites that are a minimal fee and you have some facilities. Then there are dispersed campsites, and you can camp anywhere. No facilities and away from everyone, usually. Those dates are pretty heavy in visitors since it is close to Memorial Day and a lot of people have started their vacations.

I've not camped in Sedona. Too busy I thought. I always made Sedona day trips.
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Stephen on February 24, 2016, 08:44:21 AM
As we get closer, I'm going to rely on folks that have wheeled the area and know it better than me.  I'm down for camping anywhere, as I'll have a cot tent that I'll setup with a few other incidentals.

Anyone want to step up and help create the camping location for Friday and Saturday AND the route we'll take for the wheeling trip?

Sn0

If you are for sure heading to Sedona, then there are lots of camp sites. Many of us prefer the non-pay sites, or at the least the FS sites that are a minimal fee and you have some facilities. Then there are dispersed campsites, and you can camp anywhere. No facilities and away from everyone, usually. Those dates are pretty heavy in visitors since it is close to Memorial Day and a lot of people have started their vacations.

I've not camped in Sedona. Too busy I thought. I always made Sedona day trips.

I would rather spend a few days hanging out, camping, and try and wheel all the trails up there I can...I was also thinking about doing some mountain biking on Sunday.  I may bring one or both of my daughters as well, but I'm sure they'd rather spend time with their cousins than with me; if they came, I would not go mountain biking.

Sn0
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: DBAX on February 24, 2016, 10:27:18 AM
Mountain biking in Sedona? Youtube "Sedona White line"..
Title: Re: Wheeling May 20th - 22nd : Sedona, AZ
Post by: Stephen on February 24, 2016, 11:25:23 AM
Mountain biking in Sedona? Youtube "Sedona White line"..

 I have...probably won't run that trail...maybe ride to that point, but I doubt I'll ride the white line.  I'll probably do the Hangover though, and just walk the parts I don't want to ride! LOL

Sn0