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Club Information => Member Coordinated Events => Archived Member Events => Topic started by: XID on May 12, 2016, 05:00:41 PM

Title: Help with PRG lift install 5/21
Post by: XID on May 12, 2016, 05:00:41 PM
I have the 5100 Bilstien's and the dual AAL's on order from PRG.  Greg had them in stock and said I should get them next week.
I'm planning a week long southern UT trip in early June and would like to get it installed before I leave.  Anyone willing to lend a hand/tools to get this installed.
I'll admit I no mechanic, but from what I've read on TheNewX.org and some videos I've watched it doesn't' seem too difficult if you have the right tools and an extra set of hands.

I have:
2 jack stands
Wheel chocks
wrenches/ratchet set
Stock jack and Hi-lift (if I need to lift for jack stands, though not fond of the idea.)
possibly some C-Clamps, I'll have to dig to know for sure.

Need:
hydraulic jack
Coil compressor
Ideally someone more mechanically inclined than me  ;D
garage, all I have is an uncovered driveway. I can make it work if needed, but not ideal this heat.

I'd appreciate any help the could be offered!

Andy
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: Stephen on May 12, 2016, 06:04:44 PM
Where are you located? I won't be in AZ until the first weekend in June, otherwise I'd help.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: XID on May 12, 2016, 06:14:27 PM
Central Phoenix.
I think the weekend of the June 4/5 would be cutting it too close.  I'm planning on heading out later that week or the next weekend.

Thanks for the offer though!
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on May 12, 2016, 06:35:14 PM
I think a mod day is due.
i have some heims ordered waiting on those and some spacers i haven't installed.
Also starting to get hot so early morning is a must.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: XterrasNameIsMolly (Justin) on May 14, 2016, 12:23:56 AM
Depending on date, id be happy to help with mod day!
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: Jo-BOB on May 14, 2016, 07:23:44 AM
I'm down to help. I'd have an auto shop do the springs. Spring compressors are dangerous.

But otherwise it's all an easy install. I bet we knock out the whole install in 3-4 hours.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: Rubio480 on May 14, 2016, 02:42:44 PM
Come on down to Rubio Automotive Specialist in mesa! (My driveway)

I have everything needed to get that lift on. Besides coil compressors
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: XID on May 14, 2016, 03:23:58 PM
Thanks for the offers everyone.  I appreciate it.  Rubio, what's your availability look like?  If the shocks and AAL's come in this week, would next Saturday or Sunday work or would Sat, Sun or Mon of Memorial Day weekend be better?
Do you have room for a mod day if others needed help too?

I was planning renting the coil compressor from Autozone or O'Reilly's, seems like it might be a hassle to try to line up a shop nearby that has one, pull the strut assembly and run it over in another vehicle, plus the shop cost.

Do you have air tools?
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: Rubio480 on May 14, 2016, 03:29:40 PM
Hopefully greg was true to his word about having them in stock.

I can next Saturday night.
Or sunday. I have air tools yes.

What shocks did you get? I've used coil compressors once. Not too bad
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: XID on May 14, 2016, 04:37:23 PM
The Bilstein 5100 adjustable.  There was some discussion on Club Frontier about how to properly assemble the 5100's with some good pictures and another diagram a couple pages later.
http://www.clubfrontier.org/forums/f26/beware-bilstein-5100-owners-65258/index5.html


Gregg said he was looking at them when we were on the phone.  He also said I would be getting a tracking number and should expect them on Tuesday or Wednesday.
I put the order in with him late afternoon Thursday and was charged Friday, but no tracking number yet.  I will contact him on Monday to get the tracking number.

I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: Rubio480 on May 15, 2016, 07:09:21 AM
Sounds good man!
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: XID on May 18, 2016, 09:45:04 AM
Shocks and AAL's arrived from PRG yesterday, so I'm ready go.  Also picked up some rear 5100 Bils from a theNewx.org member, which should arrive Friday.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: Rubio480 on May 18, 2016, 09:49:18 AM
Saturday night it is!
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: xZilla on May 18, 2016, 10:08:36 AM
I'll be there most likely.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: XID on May 18, 2016, 10:15:47 AM
What time and where?
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on May 18, 2016, 10:36:46 AM
Mod night
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: Rubio480 on May 18, 2016, 11:01:47 AM
Shoot me a text

480 603 6834
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: XID on May 18, 2016, 12:20:55 PM
Looks like Saturday night at 6:30pm at Rubio's place.
Text him for directions if needed.
Post up here if you can make it and if you need work done or will just be lending a hand.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: xZilla on May 18, 2016, 01:21:55 PM
I need my front lifted a bit more, I'll take the tires off but will need Eron to wrench the rings!
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on May 19, 2016, 07:58:24 AM
I have not seen Hammer chime in but if he's around, his driveway has done quite a few lifts and other mods. :)

If it's at Rubio's, what are your major cross streets?
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: Chuy on May 19, 2016, 08:03:18 AM
What's needed to do struts?

Something like this?

http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/suspension/single-action-strut-spring-compressor-43753.html
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on May 19, 2016, 08:50:31 AM
What's needed to do struts?

Something like this?

http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/suspension/single-action-strut-spring-compressor-43753.html

Never used one like that. The rent a tool from autozone or any auto parts store looks like this
(http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac199/thupertrooper/pathy/939F55AA-F648-488B-BA2B-9920E718957B.jpg) (http://s899.photobucket.com/user/thupertrooper/media/pathy/939F55AA-F648-488B-BA2B-9920E718957B.jpg.html)
I have used it a dozen times works good.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: Chuy on May 19, 2016, 08:53:40 AM
What's needed to do struts?

Something like this?

http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/suspension/single-action-strut-spring-compressor-43753.html

Never used one like that. The rent a tool from autozone or any auto parts store looks like this
(http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac199/thupertrooper/pathy/939F55AA-F648-488B-BA2B-9920E718957B.jpg) (http://s899.photobucket.com/user/thupertrooper/media/pathy/939F55AA-F648-488B-BA2B-9920E718957B.jpg.html)
I have used it a dozen times works good.

I haven't had good luck with those in the past they always seem to bend or twist, maybe I need to look into a better brand. I like the ones they have in auto shops, it looks like a big press.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on May 19, 2016, 08:56:28 AM
I don't do enough springs to purchase one but renting it is good enough for me.
For our Nissans its alot easier since you can remove the whole strut to work on.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: TeguTerra on May 19, 2016, 09:43:59 AM
I have a set of those at home. 
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install
Post by: XID on May 19, 2016, 12:27:43 PM
I picked up a rental set from Autozone last night, like the one pictured.  If someone has a better compressor I'm open to it.
Greg at PRG suggested that if using these bar types, you pick up 2 sets and use 3 bars for safety.  Makes sense since the potential energy will be distributed into 3 points.
If someone who's coming has an extra set, could you bring it.  Otherwise if I don't hear back from anyone, i'll probably rent a 2nd set.

Compressing the coils is what's making me the most nervous, so i'm going to try to be as cautious as possible when doing it.

I got under the truck last night and sprayed some PB Blaster onto all the nuts that I thought we'd be touching.

Also picked up some 1/2 x 3-1/8 x 8 ubolts to replace the OEM.  I'll bring my dremel and metal cutting wheels to take off any excess if needed.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install 5/21
Post by: XID on May 22, 2016, 05:27:32 PM
I want to thank everyone who showed up and helped out with my lift yesterday. We finished in about 4 hours. I really appreciated the knowledge and help.
Here's a couple crappy pics that show the before and after. Worked out to be about 1.5 in the front and 2.5 in the rear.  The rear no longer bottoms out, which was my primary goal.

Before:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/icvFl8xmrIgtiaJPjEpTElOD-te2K_lf4NBUm41fpO4TdqlE3DMhmVu4sro6jC51WNFojK2IFjx7Aw=w1024-h768-no)

After:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kY2cUJN7Miz95cV9mDhylwm9M_rF_JA2DPn4FUCfqA7fH0AR0_zOvGrC6BAIU0cW3WbklhxQvkWA0g=w1024-h768-no)
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install 5/21
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on May 22, 2016, 06:57:46 PM
Looks alot better.
Later on when you decide on going with upper control arms you will be able to lift the front a little more and get more travel.
But for now that sits pretty good.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install 5/21
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on May 22, 2016, 07:57:31 PM
Well done!
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install 5/21
Post by: Chuy on May 22, 2016, 08:59:50 PM
Looks damn good, like Im looking at my X. Any front and rear measurements ground to top of fender?
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install 5/21
Post by: XID on May 23, 2016, 04:52:19 PM
Just so we're all on the same page of terminology. Figured a picture would be best.  ;D
Also running 285/75/16 KO2's.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8zta9OrHfiHkDfu5C3A7sSdiDrY22kuhlY4JQeuSxuRbTKLUMSSmWMFfP5QoAUwDmUwHrkZTu0dZZ0RFHqPWkSFJJLYwj2uSYHksWlNBwPML4IvRg3mDeG_8PM9WtY3NukmU2ETf55xh0YX5rlTXZ6I4QlJ46yIEOL91S4pJTvdsovyE1QFKWsIu4B8FGdZtf0nikFByHt5MS2ZygekcyddFz6CJM-QudBJFuIFAa1CcXKw4Agm-sI-KESN2gcZjC7pWW__ThZAvgAXBzuZX2rrHlM9HoOOuggln1oVsFsbXTlD5zVBoEVIke2Uhvw9NdlEHFycd3qHlkpBfCCmKKgUDBcRUEvPJw34o3kUWl50TASLMA_toOvAXEJZYDXJwNay1dkHWhL1UkaxAstHJhAH6DyN9r_-docAANxRaaMqUUTJG3EA76iqTjh5yQsCOygAaGWXMAQKmkkslQm6D4A9NKeJoljh-NUcrd6ezid2jcRlQhWFh-xvKpFsOCNG88ntfWX2mys0gTFVAS8IrhhTUF50cMgRilbz1IEFoMsp5KTQz8o9sAUk-YWIU3I8XBNf-HNuMKhJurdmPt-WBbXP0NONenZDk=w1024-h768-no)
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install 5/21
Post by: remo1991(Brent) on May 24, 2016, 10:05:53 AM
what is stock height with stock wheels
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install 5/21
Post by: XID on May 24, 2016, 10:49:26 AM
I don't have measurements from bone stock, but the day before the lift with the 285/75/16's my front was about 34.75 and rear was about 35.
This is also a Pro-4X, so I think stock for it sits a little higher than non-Pro4x models.
If you figure stock Pro-4x tires are 265/75/16 then my tires grew 1.2 inches so .6 inch lift when tires were added.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install 5/21
Post by: Jo-BOB on May 27, 2016, 10:09:24 AM
stock height for an OR/PRO4X is 35.59 inches in the rear and 34.25 inches in the front. Thats with the 265/76/16's
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install 5/21
Post by: Chuy on May 28, 2016, 07:05:20 PM

This is also a Pro-4X, so I think stock for it sits a little higher than non-Pro4x models.


That dual AAL looks like it did magic for the rear suspension compared to the slammed look in your avatar photo.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install 5/21
Post by: XID on May 30, 2016, 11:46:49 PM
Yea,  so far the AAL has been great.  All the bottoming out that i was getting just around town is gone.  Went up to 4 peaks yesterday and could really feel the difference the 4 Bils and AAL's made.

To be fair to my avatar photo,  I  was loaded down for a 10 day camping trip.

I'll be loading it again for an 11 day camping trip starting next Thursday.  I'm sure I'll get some new pics from that.

My goal is to sleep in the back of the X for all but 2 nights,  which will be my backpacking portion. If it gets too stuffy,  I'll break out the tent.
Title: Re: Help with PRG lift install 5/21
Post by: Chuy on May 31, 2016, 06:26:48 PM
Yea,  so far the AAL has been great.  All the bottoming out that i was getting just around town is gone.  Went up to 4 peaks yesterday and could really feel the difference the 4 Bils and AAL's made.

To be fair to my avatar photo,  I  was loaded down for a 10 day camping trip.

I'll be loading it again for an 11 day camping trip starting next Thursday.  I'm sure I'll get some new pics from that.

My goal is to sleep in the back of the X for all but 2 nights,  which will be my backpacking portion. If it gets too stuffy,  I'll break out the tent.

Mine looks the same when loaded up for a weekend camping trip,beer must be extra heavy on stock Xterra springs.

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e234/Medeco1/4x4%20Overland/DSC_8624_zpsy9a3hd5m.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Medeco1/media/4x4%20Overland/DSC_8624_zpsy9a3hd5m.jpg.html)