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Title: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on November 04, 2016, 01:48:52 PM
For those of you who don't know, in 2017 AZXC will once again host CANVAZ.  CANVAZ is a tri-state wheeling event, participated in by California, Nevada, and Arizona.  For those who didn't make it the last couple years both California and Nevada held awesome events.  They showed off their state's challenging trails and beautiful camping sites for all to enjoy.  This event typically takes place in October, with the actual weekend selected by the host.  This is a perfect time of year for camping and wheeling in AZ, so this event should be a blast. 

This will be the Brainstorming/Planning page.  I would like to come up with a list of locations that people think would work, and a list of people willing to perform trail leader/ tail gunner positions.  This should give us plenty of time to scout out locations. 

Thank you in advance for everyone who decides to help plan, scout, lead, or tail any of these events!
   
List of Trails that have been Pre run:
Moss Wash (red)
Cloride Mines (red)
Cattail Cove (red/blue)
Bison Falls (blue)
Back Road to Desert Bar (blue)

Still need Pre Run:
Pass Canyon
Secret Pass
Green Trails

Need to start planning:
Food Friday night provided by AZXC
Camp Site
# of rig limitations for trails
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: m.sainz12 on December 07, 2016, 02:13:15 AM
I'm going to this this year. I don't care what plans the lady makes. Its happening. That being said if you need help with scouting or anything I can do to help just let me know.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on December 08, 2016, 08:47:44 AM
Let's hope I can go this year.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on December 08, 2016, 10:31:28 AM
You guys better make an appearance atleast hitching a ride with someone lol.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on December 08, 2016, 03:26:47 PM
Well the last couple CANVAZ was work and kids that messed up the schedule. Unless AZXC can create a group babysitter. :)
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on December 08, 2016, 07:07:54 PM
Well the last couple CANVAZ was work and kids that messed up the schedule. Unless AZXC can create a group babysitter. :)

That was Vegas.. Next year is here so kids are welcomed.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Rubio480 on December 08, 2016, 08:40:40 PM
This sounds tricky. We definitely wanna show off az, but now with two trails limited in sedona, it would be a short day.

I'm thinking crown king for initial start
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Chuy on December 08, 2016, 09:13:39 PM
I think first set the tone for the event then choose a place 2WD friendly or 4WD only or a mix of the two. From what I have seen we have a pretty good mix of everything in the club, I would like to see some stats or a poll on that information.

How many people are 2WD

How many people are 4WD Stock

How Many people are 4WD Lifted 33" or locked

How Many people are 4WD Lifted 35"+ or locked or SAS or TS

I think CK would exclude most 2WD and stockers, but then again I haven't been up there is years.

I think Florence Junction area has the most variety of trials with a centralised camping location. Lots and lots of trail choices for everything from stock to extreme.

Sedona is really nice and scenic for someone who has never seen it.

Tough choice but FJ is the only area I think that would satisfy all needs for every group. I can think of 3 or 5 trails that are all day trips with the bonus of some fun night runs. The limiting factors are weather, it can be monsoon rain, blazing heat, or wild weather shifts from 95* to 50* at night.




Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on December 09, 2016, 06:25:38 AM
Chuy CANVAZ is 4wd only all trails should be 4wd
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Rubio480 on December 09, 2016, 09:08:20 AM
Hackberry creek
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Chuy on December 09, 2016, 09:43:20 AM
Hackberry creek

That's an awesome area I haven't ran that trail in a long time. The drive up there is really scenic once you pass Superior.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on December 09, 2016, 10:14:01 AM
I haven't been over there either.  Ideally it would be nice to find a location that is more reasonable for NV and CA people, so keep that in mind too.   
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Clifford3200 on December 09, 2016, 11:00:32 AM
Chuy CANVAZ is 4wd only all trails should be 4wd

I think that is a but unfair to the Arizona portion because of the somewhat rarity of 4x4s here. Cali offered an easy trail and a hard trail so that multiple events could cater to the whole community. Leaving out the option to invite 2wd people is poor planning in my opinion, extremely unfair...

If you guys are trying to plan an event, and every suggestion is 4x4, leaving out the option for 2wds or stock 4x4s to join, or if its an issue for every single club event then during the sign up, there should be a question in the joining process that asks if the X is 2wd and just reject those that are. It would make planning a lot easier for yall.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on December 09, 2016, 12:34:11 PM
Camping and meet and greet will be 2wd drive friendly but the portion to wheel will be 4x4 only just as in Nevada. FJ / Superior area will be very similiar to the area Nelson Loops we wheeled.

Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on December 09, 2016, 12:42:10 PM
Chuy CANVAZ is 4wd only all trails should be 4wd

I think that is a but unfair to the Arizona portion because of the somewhat rarity of 4x4s here. Cali offered an easy trail and a hard trail so that multiple events could cater to the whole community. Leaving out the option to invite 2wd people is poor planning in my opinion, extremely unfair...

If you guys are trying to plan an event, and every suggestion is 4x4, leaving out the option for 2wds or stock 4x4s to join, or if its an issue for every single club event then during the sign up, there should be a question in the joining process that asks if the X is 2wd and just reject those that are. It would make planning a lot easier for yall.

If we make it 2wd friendly on every trail I don't want 4wd guys from stock to modified getting bored on backcountry dirty roads.

I also don't want 2wd vehicles on 4wd trails getting stuck damaged or hurt.

I don't want to invite 2wd vehicles from out of state to make a drive unless they are going to be riding with someone 4wd.
Anybody 2wd wanting to make the drive for the meet and greet and camping are more then welcome...
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on December 09, 2016, 12:44:40 PM
Hackberry creek

If we choose hackberry we have to scout it out before so we don't have any unexpected obstacles with a large group.

So that means we have to do a scout run lol.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Rubio480 on December 09, 2016, 03:46:35 PM
Hackberry creek

If we choose hackberry we have to scout it out before so we don't have any unexpected obstacles with a large group.

So that means we have to do a scout run lol.

Let's go January! I've ran half at night 2x, half during day. And full at night.

It's pretty easy geographically wise.

I mostly just want to see the ca/nv wheel their rigs
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Chuy on December 09, 2016, 05:41:20 PM
Hackberry creek

If we choose hackberry we have to scout it out before so we don't have any unexpected obstacles with a large group.

So that means we have to do a scout run lol.

I read and heard it has been smoothed out a lot over the years with the increased mining activity, I recall it having some long boulder fields but I know those have been flattened out to almost nothing now.

Rubio when you say full run did you run it in from the 60 and out to the 177?

Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Rubio480 on December 09, 2016, 05:59:45 PM
I ran the loop along the powerline.

Skids and sliders needed. I'm t swapped with 4.5" lift and had difficulty on this trail

Hackberry creek

If we choose hackberry we have to scout it out before so we don't have any unexpected obstacles with a large group.

So that means we have to do a scout run lol.

I read and heard it has been smoothed out a lot over the years with the increased mining activity, I recall it having some long boulder fields but I know those have been flattened out to almost nothing now.

Rubio when you say full run did you run it in from the 60 and out to the 177?
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on December 09, 2016, 07:56:12 PM
We should be able to run multiple trails at a time, I'd like to have at least one green trails for those who would like to attend.  That is what makes planning this event difficult, there are a lot of considerations.  It would be nice if the event was easily accessible from out of state, there should be both Red and Green trail availability within driving range to a large enough camping spot to handle 25ish rigs.     
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Clifford3200 on December 09, 2016, 09:19:31 PM
We should be able to run multiple trails at a time, I'd like to have at least one green trails for those who would like to attend.  That is what makes planning this event difficult, there are a lot of considerations.  It would be nice if the event was easily accessible from out of state, there should be both Red and Green trail availability within driving range to a large enough camping spot to handle 25ish rigs.     

Yes, this exactly. Just how Cali had done a couple years ago. They had a meet up at the camping spot, an optional night run on a simple trail. Next morning, an easy group and a difficult group. Met back up at camp that evening. next morning a huge group on an easy/ moderate trail and we broke off from home after that. I was perfect, having the options for difficulty present and then having a moderate goodbye trail.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Clifford3200 on December 09, 2016, 09:24:18 PM
I think first set the tone for the event then choose a place 2WD friendly or 4WD only or a mix of the two. From what I have seen we have a pretty good mix of everything in the club, I would like to see some stats or a poll on that information.

How many people are 2WD

How many people are 4WD Stock

How Many people are 4WD Lifted 33" or locked

How Many people are 4WD Lifted 35"+ or locked or SAS or TS

I think CK would exclude most 2WD and stockers, but then again I haven't been up there is years.

I think Florence Junction area has the most variety of trials with a centralised camping location. Lots and lots of trail choices for everything from stock to extreme.

Sedona is really nice and scenic for someone who has never seen it.

Tough choice but FJ is the only area I think that would satisfy all needs for every group. I can think of 3 or 5 trails that are all day trips with the bonus of some fun night runs. The limiting factors are weather, it can be monsoon rain, blazing heat, or wild weather shifts from 95* to 50* at night.






After seeing Chuy's suggestion earlier, and his description of FJ on the kickoff run topic I think it would work great as a CANVAZ suggestion that satisfies the availability of choice for all members
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Chuy on December 10, 2016, 10:10:16 AM
I ran the loop along the powerline.

Skids and sliders needed. I'm t swapped with 4.5" lift and had difficulty on this trail

Sounds about right, I ran it in my Jeep wrangler 6" Lift on 35" KM2's and from what I recall it was fairly rough in some spots. I have never done the full trail from highway to highway but have always wanted to do it from the 177 to the 60.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Stephen on December 10, 2016, 08:03:54 PM
Anyone up for scouting FJ area soon? I'd be up for scouting out area for camping and wheeling.

Sn0
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Chuy on December 11, 2016, 04:29:30 PM
Anyone up for scouting FJ area soon? I'd be up for scouting out area for camping and wheeling.

Sn0

I would be up for a cruise if an overnight stay is involved. I wouldn't mind hitting up several trails in a multi day expedition. There are a lot of really fun trails I haven't done in forever like telegraph canyon road, battle axe, etc. The water crossing should be much easier during the winter time.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Stephen on December 12, 2016, 03:55:19 PM
Anyone up for scouting FJ area soon? I'd be up for scouting out area for camping and wheeling.

Sn0

I would be up for a cruise if an overnight stay is involved. I wouldn't mind hitting up several trails in a multi day expedition. There are a lot of really fun trails I haven't done in forever like telegraph canyon road, battle axe, etc. The water crossing should be much easier during the winter time.

I think I'm available the 2nd and 3rd weekend in January, if you want to get a group together for scouting?

Sn0
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Chuy on December 12, 2016, 03:58:10 PM
I think I'm available the 2nd and 3rd weekend in January, if you want to get a group together for scouting?
Sn0

I'm taking next week off, and requested the first week of January off.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Stephen on December 12, 2016, 07:05:45 PM
I'm off on Friday, but I was going to see about doing a day run up Crown King
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Chuy on December 12, 2016, 07:24:42 PM
I'm off on Friday, but I was going to see about doing a day run up Crown King

Friday is a little too short notice for me to take off, what about Saturday or Sunday? I haven't run CK since 09' so Im curious to see what it looks like now.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 25, 2017, 02:12:31 AM
I went ahead and added a date, hopefully this is far enough in advance we can get a lot of members. 

I have been playing with the idea of Friday doing a mid day meet up for a Broken Arrow run, ending with camping at end of the world.  Not sure our friends from Cali or Nevada would be able to make that by mid day. 

I was hoping to avoid a large group Saturday Broken Arrow congestion nightmare.  Also, there are some runs around Kingman that look promising. 
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on January 25, 2017, 07:26:07 AM
Im down to do a kingman scout run of some trails.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 31, 2017, 08:42:50 PM
I hear you, scheduling is already looking tight.  I'm off this Saturday, and then basically booked till April 1st.  Let me sit down with the Bible this morning and make a list of trails to prerun.  I may try to run up there Friday to check out the camping spot and run a trail. 
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on January 31, 2017, 09:10:44 PM
I hear you, scheduling is already looking tight.  I'm off this Saturday, and then basically booked till April 1st.  Let me sit down with the Bible this morning and make a list of trails to prerun.  I may try to run up there Friday to check out the camping spot and run a trail.

Did the vegas guys show you some trails in Kingman?
Aslong as we dont do any trails they have done. But if we choose that area we might get more Cali and Nevada guys.
I was looking at the area and read a couple spots marked as if they were in an Indian Reservation.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 31, 2017, 09:23:40 PM
It was raining and snowing, the trail we ran in kingman we did not do the obstacles and only did 1/4 of it.  I have to look up the name.   
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: m.sainz12 on January 31, 2017, 10:38:24 PM
Would be down to help prerun also. Can't do this weekend or any Saturday from now until may
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on February 01, 2017, 12:42:43 PM
I'm thinking of sneaking up there to check out the campsite, maybe pre run a trail.  I'm off till sunday, so if anyone is interested post up. 
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on February 01, 2017, 12:50:38 PM
I'm thinking of sneaking up there to check out the campsite, maybe pre run a trail.  I'm off till sunday, so if anyone is interested post up.

Im want to go but it was a little short notice for me. Ill have to figure something out. Might not be able to camp though.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Chuy on February 01, 2017, 01:15:19 PM
Avi,

What trail did you have in mind? I might be able to take Friday off.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Pax (Eric) on February 01, 2017, 05:05:13 PM
Have we narrowed down a general area yet or is it still up in the air?
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on February 01, 2017, 06:43:39 PM
Have we narrowed down a general area yet or is it still up in the air?

Our goal is Kingman area
Southeast it looks like
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Pax (Eric) on February 01, 2017, 09:02:01 PM
Ok sounds good
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on February 01, 2017, 09:31:05 PM
The altitude on some of the Kingman trails makes me worry about pre running them at this time.  I want to pre run two blue trails around Lake Havasu and one west of Kingman.  The names are Cattail Cove, Bison Falls, and Secret Pass/Slurry Rd.  I think we could meet up and camp on Cattail cove somewhere,  Trailhead (https://goo.gl/maps/SUKs2ctLzsL2).  I'm off through Sunday, so if you want to attend post up your availability and maybe a couple of us could hit the trail. 
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on February 02, 2017, 11:07:02 AM
I will not be able to go with you but if you get a gameplan going when i scout it i can check off other areas that you didnt get to.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: DBAX on February 02, 2017, 11:14:39 AM
We ran from Kingman down to Upper Burro Creek Wilderness, across to the Santa Maria river and down a ways, then back over to Bagdad, Hillside, and Congress before dumping out in Wickenburg one spring. Nice 4-5 day Xcursion...
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Chuy on February 02, 2017, 06:57:35 PM
If your looking for some company I can head out tomorrow after 5:00pm. I'm off the weekend, and can take any day off.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on February 06, 2017, 01:07:06 AM
Ran Cattail Cove, Bison Falls, and Back road to the Desert Bar.  Cattail cove was a lot of fun, but would have to be rig limited.  Back road was fun, with more challenging obstacles, but no spot to camp and basically ends on a major dirt road.  Will have to wait for spring to do a Kingman scout, my first available weekend is 4/1.  I'd have to be back Saturday night to as I can't afford the PTO, so if possible head out Thursday/ early Friday to get the runs in. 

The runs I would still like to prerun are. 
Chloride Mines (Red)
Pass Canyon (Red)
Moss Wash (Red)
Secret Pass(Blue)

Also, GPS locations of sizable campgrounds are needed. 
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on February 06, 2017, 01:07:48 AM
Also, I need a list of volunteers for Trail lead/Tail gun. 
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on February 06, 2017, 06:45:30 AM
Im still going to scout it later on.

I can lead any trail i pre ran but tail gun ill help out.

What im worried about is if the person volunteering to lead bails out last minute. We will need to make the tail gunners the plan B for trail leaders.

If it warms up might do my first trip out there the 25th of Feb

First goal will be to find camping spots.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: m.sainz12 on February 06, 2017, 09:29:00 AM
If we camp in havasu maybe we can find a spot by the lake.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on February 06, 2017, 10:17:38 AM
Might need multiple camp spots since there will be multiple trails. So once we figure out which trails we are doing we can choose the camps.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: PitSnipe (Kyle) on February 06, 2017, 11:05:07 AM
Also depending on the order of trails we could coordinate a camp spot along the way. Like trail Friday then camp. trails all day Saturday then camp somewhere else. then short trail sunday before we head home.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on February 06, 2017, 12:44:58 PM
Exactly Kyle there will be mutiple trails so multiple camps makes it better to change it up a bit.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on February 06, 2017, 03:33:29 PM
Also depending on the order of trails we could coordinate a camp spot along the way. Like trail Friday then camp. trails all day Saturday then camp somewhere else. then short trail sunday before we head home.

That is the basic schedule I am thinking.  We won't be able to determine camp sites until we determine the runs and the order, mostly I'm just writing it down to remind myself.  When we go an scout these trails, we'll try to get GPS locations of good camping locations.

Chloride Mines Trail lists two designated campsites, Packsaddle Campground has vaulted toilets, fire rings, and bear lockers.  Windy Point Campground offers vaulted toilets, fire rings, and picnic benches but may be $8 per night. 

Secret Pass lists dispersed camping near 68 and old kingman highway.  Looking at satellite maps, I'm sure we can find something around there. 

Moss Wash doesn't list anything, but is in a large offroad area as well, so I am sure we could find something near the trail. 
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Stephen on February 07, 2017, 06:41:51 AM
I'm up for leading or gunning a trail, and I'm in for this because the timing is good.

I say we find a centralized spot to camp for the pre-run event white looking for a spot to camp...Then I can bring my camper and family too.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on February 07, 2017, 11:32:09 AM
Looks like there might be a pre run happening again in March 31st

I will be trying to go sooner maybe the 25th of February if my Pathy stays good.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on February 09, 2017, 11:43:24 PM
Looking for 2wd trail leaders and looking to gauge interest from 2wd members. 
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Pax (Eric) on February 10, 2017, 12:50:15 PM
Looking for 2wd trail leaders and looking to gauge interest from 2wd members.

Clifford said she would be interested in leading a 2wd trail we would just need to know the area and we would have to go scout.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on February 10, 2017, 01:27:00 PM
Looking for 2wd trail leaders and looking to gauge interest from 2wd members.

Clifford said she would be interested in leading a 2wd trail we would just need to know the area and we would have to go scout.

Is her Xterra fixed? Or are you wanting to lead it?

We will have 2 volunteers just in case I people can make it.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Pax (Eric) on February 10, 2017, 01:43:41 PM
Looking for 2wd trail leaders and looking to gauge interest from 2wd members.

Clifford said she would be interested in leading a 2wd trail we would just need to know the area and we would have to go scout.

Is her Xterra fixed? Or are you wanting to lead it?

We will have 2 volunteers just in case I people can make it.

We are hoping her rig will be fixed in the next week or so but if it isnt i can lead it with her as my passenger.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on February 13, 2017, 11:21:59 AM
Next scout run for Kingman will be February 25th.

Might leave friday and camp 2 nights.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Azfronty99 on February 23, 2017, 10:25:10 PM
I'm going to try and make this happen. Always wanted to do one of these events
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on March 01, 2017, 01:26:25 AM
Sounds like Moss Wash is a must do. 
Here's a schedule idea rough draft.

Friday
Pass Canyon (Red-Still needs Pre run)

Maybe 3 runs Saturday, Red/Blue/Green. 
Moss Wash (Red), Secret Pass (Blue), TBD (Green)

Sunday 2 runs
Cloride Mine(Red),TBD(Green)

I really liked the cattail cove trail, but its about 2hrs to the trailhead from the current best camping spot and it would have to be limited to like 8 rigs. 
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: AZ-Ted on March 23, 2017, 09:35:37 PM
Just a suggestion, but Table Mesa has everything you are looking for, and it is only 30 miles north of Phoenix.  It has all trails from easy 2WD trails to some of the most difficult 4WD trails in the US (body damage and mechanical breakage expected).  Also, there are very large camping spots, plus all kinds of dispersed camping.  You can get RVs back in there, and any trailer you can tow.  Plus, target shooting is permitted - I've seen and heard everything from .22cal to .50cal out there.  Up north will be cold in mid-October, but Table Mesa is only at ~2000ft, so it will be much more tolerable.  Just need to bring firewood, as there is very little on the ground out there.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on March 24, 2017, 06:44:57 AM
I like Ted's suggestion. I'll be in that area this weekend.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: PitSnipe (Kyle) on March 24, 2017, 07:16:20 AM
I like Ted's suggestion too, but I think that Kingman has a lot to offer. Most of us haven't wheeled that area so its nice to see something new. Its closer to Cali and Nevada so it entices more out of state members to come. We've already done two scouting trips with a third coming up in a month. I am really excited as to what Kingman and CANVAZ have to offer.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on March 24, 2017, 07:52:10 AM
This years goal to get cali and Nevada guys into canvaz by picking a location closer to them. Once they are hooked in 3 years we can choose a phx location.

Also there is already alot of time invested in Kingman already cant turn back and start over. But table mesa/ crownking would be nice for the following AZ turn.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on March 24, 2017, 08:44:06 AM
This years goal to get cali and Nevada guys into canvaz by picking a location closer to them. Once they are hooked in 3 years we can choose a phx location.

Also there is already alot of time invested in Kingman already cant turn back and start over. But table mesa/ crownking would be nice for the following AZ turn.

The scouting is always good for anytime in the future, how many cali and Nevada guys have committed?
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on March 24, 2017, 09:00:59 AM
We can do table mesa in Sept?
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: PitSnipe (Kyle) on March 24, 2017, 09:27:41 AM
We can do table mesa in Sept?

So far we have 4- Cali, 0-Nevada, and 1- Utah
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on March 24, 2017, 02:05:52 PM
Does Nevada have any forums?
How many does Cali have?

I think after our next pre run we will have most of it planned out.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Fronty2011 on April 04, 2017, 07:46:04 PM
Does Nevada have any forums?
How many does Cali have?

I think after our next pre run we will have most of it planned out.
Nevada guy here. We dont have a forum but pretty much all of us are on the Silverstatenissan Facebook page, feel free to post up there if you want. I think once the dates are posted there will be more interest. I really want to go, its the camping thing that is holding me back a little since I dont have anything but I am working that out.

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Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on April 04, 2017, 08:27:35 PM
Does Nevada have any forums?
How many does Cali have?

I think after our next pre run we will have most of it planned out.
Nevada guy here. We dont have a forum but pretty much all of us are on the Silverstatenissan Facebook page, feel free to post up there if you want. I think once the dates are posted there will be more interest. I really want to go, its the camping thing that is holding me back a little since I dont have anything but I am working that out.

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Dates are posted on the original post (OP) everything else is still a work in progress, but feel free to chime I on suggestions if you have been in the area.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Fronty2011 on April 04, 2017, 08:31:46 PM
Does Nevada have any forums?
How many does Cali have?

I think after our next pre run we will have most of it planned out.
Nevada guy here. We dont have a forum but pretty much all of us are on the Silverstatenissan Facebook page, feel free to post up there if you want. I think once the dates are posted there will be more interest. I really want to go, its the camping thing that is holding me back a little since I dont have anything but I am working that out.

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Dates are posted on the original post (OP) everything else is still a work in progress, but feel free to chime I on suggestions if you have been in the area.
Ok, so 10/14 is the date. Next step is to get everything I need to camp, then decide if the wife can handle it or If I go solo. Never been there

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Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on April 04, 2017, 08:39:58 PM
Does Nevada have any forums?
How many does Cali have?

I think after our next pre run we will have most of it planned out.
Nevada guy here. We dont have a forum but pretty much all of us are on the Silverstatenissan Facebook page, feel free to post up there if you want. I think once the dates are posted there will be more interest. I really want to go, its the camping thing that is holding me back a little since I dont have anything but I am working that out.

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Dates are posted on the original post (OP) everything else is still a work in progress, but feel free to chime I on suggestions if you have been in the area.
Ok, so 10/14 is the date. Next step is to get everything I need to camp, then decide if the wife can handle it or If I go solo. Never been there

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Yes it's happening that weekend. Plan accordingly. If you arrive earlier, that's also an option as some of us may be in the area 10/13 or sooner.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on April 11, 2017, 10:24:30 AM
Has anyone posted the event info to the other Nissan forums? I haven't seen any but I don't go on them as much these days.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: PitSnipe (Kyle) on April 11, 2017, 11:23:28 AM
Has anyone posted the event info to the other Nissan forums? I haven't seen any but I don't go on them as much these days.

Avi and I are both keeping SCCX up to date. I am also keeping TNX up to date. Nevada doesn't have a forum. They run off of FB.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on April 11, 2017, 12:46:45 PM
Has anyone posted the event info to the other Nissan forums? I haven't seen any but I don't go on them as much these days.

Avi and I are both keeping SCCX up to date. I am also keeping TNX up to date. Nevada doesn't have a forum. They run off of FB.

Can you link it here? I couldn't find it on TNX for some reason.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: PitSnipe (Kyle) on April 11, 2017, 03:14:07 PM
Has anyone posted the event info to the other Nissan forums? I haven't seen any but I don't go on them as much these days.

Avi and I are both keeping SCCX up to date. I am also keeping TNX up to date. Nevada doesn't have a forum. They run off of FB.

Can you link it here? I couldn't find it on TNX for some reason.

Right here in the AZXC regional area.
http://www.thenewx.org/forum/94-arizona-xterra-club-azxc/227521-canvaz-2017-a.html
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on April 19, 2017, 12:16:14 PM
Also, any thoughts on a decal/sticker/patches? I can do the decals and maybe a two color one if it is the size. I can find single patches for the various awards so to speak locally.

If Vinyltats does the decals they won't cost the club anything as usual. I can update the previous design or change it up a bit. I'll start a new thread in the sponsor section for thoughts on that.

http://www.azxterraclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=2789.msg25014#msg25014
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on April 19, 2017, 04:09:56 PM
Stickers/decals are a must
Patches maybe but we can have some shirts made for trail leaders also if its easier.

We can talk some designs over.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on May 31, 2017, 01:55:59 PM
Bumpin thread to hear some ideas on what canvaz swag we can giveaway/sell.
I like the idea of trailleaders having bright shirts.(green)
Maybe 10-20 for sale in a different color to sell or giveaway.
We can pre sell them for a cheaper price and then take them with us at the event.

We could also do hats and patches but thats more expensive so bigger investment.
Im thinking if we do patches we need to order soon just in case there is issues.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on June 07, 2017, 09:08:24 AM
Bumpin thread to hear some ideas on what canvaz swag we can giveaway/sell.
I like the idea of trailleaders having bright shirts.(green)
Maybe 10-20 for sale in a different color to sell or giveaway.
We can pre sell them for a cheaper price and then take them with us at the event.

We could also do hats and patches but thats more expensive so bigger investment.
Im thinking if we do patches we need to order soon just in case there is issues.

One idea, already posted in another thread for CANVAZ hats. I say at the least that Supporting Members can preorder them at cost which is about $25 not including tax, and everyone can claim one for at least the regular retail of $28. These won't be a money maker unless we order 100s so figure we can agree and then post later.
http://www.azxterraclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=2830.msg25518;topicseen#new
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: icuthroats on June 20, 2017, 10:03:26 PM
hey guys first forum post, but a few of you know me already. Vic and Eron helped me titan swap my X last year. I live out here about 30-45 min from Kingman. I have run the "secret pass" trail if its the one from the AZ backroad book. I put a video on FB last year. But most of u cant see it so ill try to link it from youtube. Also the Wild Cow campground is nice and would fit alot of rigs. Ive been there about 5-6 times in the last few months with the last time 2 weeks ago. If we cant get everyone there, the campground right as u get into the Haulapais is a good one too. Lots of room there with cabins for ppl if they wanted. Let me know if there is anything i can do to help or get info on. Also i have a short vid of the Haulapai mountain trail (the green one) so you can get an idea for other things.

https://youtu.be/2mPqU-SzcRw
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on June 21, 2017, 06:12:39 AM
That's a good resource of info there, thanks for chiming in!

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Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on June 21, 2017, 07:49:17 AM
hey guys first forum post, but a few of you know me already. Vic and Eron helped me titan swap my X last year. I live out here about 30-45 min from Kingman. I have run the "secret pass" trail if its the one from the AZ backroad book. I put a video on FB last year. But most of u cant see it so ill try to link it from youtube. Also the Wild Cow campground is nice and would fit alot of rigs. Ive been there about 5-6 times in the last few months with the last time 2 weeks ago. If we cant get everyone there, the campground right as u get into the Haulapais is a good one too. Lots of room there with cabins for ppl if they wanted. Let me know if there is anything i can do to help or get info on. Also i have a short vid of the Haulapai mountain trail (the green one) so you can get an idea for other things.

https://youtu.be/2mPqU-SzcRw

Thank you for your input. We might do 1 more pre run before the event maybe you can make it out.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: icuthroats on June 21, 2017, 12:45:49 PM
Just give me a heads up. I have a bunch of stuff going on. And only off weekends. But I'll help any way I can. I'll actually be up there this weekend if u need anything. Can't wait to meet up with most of u guys for the run. I think I'm the only one out this way (not counting vegas) lol.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on July 09, 2017, 08:30:56 AM
I recently posted our club finances in the Supporting Member section and Stephen had a good question. We need to talk about a budget and what the club is willing and able to pay for this event.

 I know it's a few months out but our club budget will change before then. Also as a reminder, Supporting Memberships are down the last few months so keep that in mind and help spread the word!
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: VetxSquared on August 30, 2017, 11:13:36 AM
Trip questions:
Can someone translate the red/blue/green rating system to the rating system here http://www.azxterraclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=424.0?

I'm concerned re: only red trails on Friday and Sunday - need to make sure my X gets me back to Sac. If the trail on Friday or Sunday is too gnarly I will likely pass that day and make a Flagstaff-Sedona-Prescott-Bagdad loop to check those areas out for future move possibilities.

Are there other trail possibilities or is it possible to break the Sat. two easier trails into two separate days? Nothing to compare trail toughness to right now so my concerns might not be needed and I don't want to "drag" someone away from a trail they really want to do just so I've got a trail-buddy.

BTW I'm lifted about 2" (longer bilsteins in front, AALs in back) on 285/75/16 KOs and am locked in the rear. Otherwise pretty much stock off-road X.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: PitSnipe (Kyle) on August 30, 2017, 11:25:50 AM
I am lifted 3" and 33s. no locker. I ran the Sat and Sun red trails this past February. The The Saturday red trail (Moss Wash) was a lot of fun. I got hung up on one boulder due to a poor line choice. Other than that I made it. The Sunday red trail Chloride mine was only rated red due to a boulder field at the start of the trail which was not hard at all.

You should have nothing to worry about.



Trip questions:
Can someone translate the red/blue/green rating system to the rating system here http://www.azxterraclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=424.0?

I'm concerned re: only red trails on Friday and Sunday - need to make sure my X gets me back to Sac. If the trail on Friday or Sunday is too gnarly I will likely pass that day and make a Flagstaff-Sedona-Prescott-Bagdad loop to check those areas out for future move possibilities.

Are there other trail possibilities or is it possible to break the Sat. two easier trails into two separate days? Nothing to compare trail toughness to right now so my concerns might not be needed and I don't want to "drag" someone away from a trail they really want to do just so I've got a trail-buddy.

BTW I'm lifted about 2" (longer bilsteins in front, AALs in back) on 285/75/16 KOs and am locked in the rear. Otherwise pretty much stock off-road X.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: Thupertrooper (Victor) on August 30, 2017, 11:58:02 AM
the rating for these trails are for the most difficult section of the trail but not the entire trail is red. Its not average on difficulty-easy.
Title: Re: CANVAZ 2017 10/14/2017 Planning Thread
Post by: pinchel (Rob) on September 17, 2017, 08:32:54 AM
It's late in the game now, but we need to try and get a few local event sponsors. Everyone's help is appreciated.