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General Discussion => Guns => Topic started by: fangars on January 13, 2013, 08:40:03 PM

Title: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: fangars on January 13, 2013, 08:40:03 PM
With the current climate like it is I thought we might like to have a thread on ammo and potential local and internet deals and resources.

The Ace Hardware on Indian School and 32nd Street has crates of 7.62 x 54 selling for $200 for 800 rounds.

They get various bulk rounds in from time to time so I will keep an eye of what they have when I go in there for hardware.
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: fangars on January 19, 2013, 08:32:21 PM
Place is empty now but they get shipments of different ammo every week.

5.56 is supposed to come in in the next two weeks.
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: paintsnow on January 19, 2013, 08:46:58 PM
If they have it for a good price let me know!
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: fangars on January 21, 2013, 05:17:04 PM
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Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 21, 2013, 07:39:33 PM
Am I the only one wondering why they label 5.56 and .223 separately?
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: 11Pro4X on January 21, 2013, 07:41:24 PM
Am I the only one wondering why they label 5.56 and .223 separately?

Yes!  It actually is two different kinds of rounds!
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 21, 2013, 07:42:34 PM
but aren't the considered interchangeable?
 
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: 11Pro4X on January 21, 2013, 07:49:48 PM
but aren't the considered interchangeable?
 

Yes but no.  If you have an AR 15 that only has a 223 barrel and you stick 556 in it, it will melt!
Title: Re: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Rosie on January 21, 2013, 07:49:58 PM
IIRC, 5.56 chambers can shoot both, but .223 can't shoot 5.56. Am I close to being accurate? Haha
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 21, 2013, 08:00:01 PM
so is 5.56 a heavier powder load?
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: sunny1881 on January 21, 2013, 08:26:56 PM
so is 5.56 a heavier powder load?

Yes and correct .223 barrel cannot fire 5.56 round.
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: paintsnow on January 21, 2013, 08:28:17 PM
5.56 tends to be a touch higher pressure, as well as the actual case being a hair larger.

5.56 is a NATO round while .223 is not
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: 11Pro4X on January 21, 2013, 08:28:43 PM
so is 5.56 a heavier powder load?

Yes and correct .223 barrel cannot fire 5.56 round.

It can fire it and it will shoot but if you continue it will melt the barrel
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Thetaxguy on January 22, 2013, 09:23:09 AM
so is 5.56 a heavier powder load?

Yes and correct .223 barrel cannot fire 5.56 round.

It can fire it and it will shoot but if you continue it will melt the barrel

You'd have to shoot A LOT of 556 to warp the barrel... A LOT, without allowing the barrel to cool.  The same thing can happen of you send a lot of 223 down range in your 223 chambered firearm in rapid succession with out a cool down period.

The issue with running 556 in a 223 chambered firearm is that the 556 runs at higher pressure. The added stress could lead to failures such as cracking you gas block and gas tube, failure to eject, failure to extract, etc.

PM me if you have any other questions.

-shawn
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 22, 2013, 08:48:25 PM
Went to Bass Pro after work...sold out of almost everything but shotgun ammo and small caliber stuff... like 7mm and .22
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Thetaxguy on January 22, 2013, 09:01:57 PM
Purchase the .22LR, if that is what they have.  You can sell it for mega bucks right now.  There is a .22LR shortage worldwide.  Some of the larger manufacturers have a 12 month backorder.

Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 22, 2013, 09:03:56 PM
If anyone finds a place with .40S&W in stock let me know
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: 11Pro4X on January 22, 2013, 09:10:22 PM
If anyone finds a place with .40S&W in stock let me know

I have 500 rounds!
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Rosie on January 22, 2013, 09:36:19 PM
They still have ammo available for sale on base where I work, they're out of 5.56 and .223 but if someone wants me to look up prices for anything specific lemme know.
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 22, 2013, 09:37:20 PM
Can anyone go and buy ammo there?
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Rosie on January 22, 2013, 09:41:13 PM
Can anyone go and buy ammo there?

Unfortunately no, you have to have a military/government ID to get on base. But I can always buy some for whoever's interested and you can pay me back at the next run/meeting/whenever.
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 22, 2013, 10:47:40 PM
I'd be interested in .40s. 
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 23, 2013, 10:14:41 AM
Not to feel obligated by any means but if you were to happen upon 100-200 rounds of .40S&W I would gladly take them off your hands  ;D
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Thetaxguy on January 23, 2013, 12:16:15 PM
If anyone finds a place with .40S&W in stock let me know

Walmart at 75th ave and lower buckeye. They have 8 250 rd boxes of UMC of .40 cal. I think they want $82/box
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 23, 2013, 01:50:51 PM
I just ended up ordering some online. Only 100 rnds for now but ill keep looking around town.
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 24, 2013, 05:19:07 AM
I only have 100rds of 40 for the upcoming trip, and I think im low on 12g too.  I better look around though, i have a bad habit of stashing ammo everywhere. 
Title: Re:
Post by: Rosie on January 24, 2013, 06:23:04 AM
I'll stop by tomorrow night when I wake up and check prices for you guys anyways. And for myself haha. Its almost time to shop for my own handgun.
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 25, 2013, 12:05:46 PM
i went to wally world today and they were out of almost everything, what is the world coming to?
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 25, 2013, 12:12:17 PM
cheaperthandirt.com
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: sunny1881 on January 25, 2013, 12:42:33 PM
^^^Almost everything in 9mm is sold out. :-\
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 25, 2013, 01:42:19 PM
dang. I just bought 200rnds for .40s&w...didnt look at 9mm
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 25, 2013, 02:15:03 PM
Big 5 had everything but .223 and .22, of course at prices i would never pay. 
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: sunny1881 on January 25, 2013, 02:47:18 PM
Big 5 had everything but .223 and .22, of course at prices i would never pay. 

What was the price for 100 or 50 round boxes of 9mm fmj, do you recall? Before this all started you could get 100rnd box of 9mm fmj at Wally World for $23.
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 25, 2013, 03:49:45 PM
50 of .40 was 26, thought that was a bit much. 
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 25, 2013, 04:18:04 PM
Yea...I paid 18.70 or something online for 50 of .40
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: fangars on February 02, 2013, 01:54:34 PM
The count on the 5.56 is a thousand rounds, the date is iffy at best.
I forgot to ask about the other rounds but I was in a hurry.
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Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: fangars on February 04, 2013, 06:28:25 PM
Ace has about 20 boxes of 50 rounds of 45 auto, same stuff in the link but Ace wants $42.99
So if you want it, they have it. If you don't need it now you can pay the cheaper wait for it in the mail prices.
http://www.luckygunner.com/45-acp-230-gr-jhp-hst-federal-law-enforcement-p45hst2-50-rounds
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on February 04, 2013, 06:34:51 PM
I just got 50 of .40 federal fmj for 18 at Wally world.  Inventories are coming back, just need to be patient. 
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: fangars on February 04, 2013, 06:44:54 PM
FMJ and JHP are not the same round. Not sure how much a difference one being 40 and the other being 45 makes but it sounds like you were buying target rounds, not defensive rounds. I could be wrong.
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on February 04, 2013, 07:51:17 PM
FMJ and JHP are not the same round. Not sure how much a difference one being 40 and the other being 45 makes but it sounds like you were buying target rounds, not defensive rounds. I could be wrong.

Ya, they are plinking rounds.  I was worried because i didn't really have enough ammo to go shooting this Saturday with my 40.  Still having trouble finding 12g bird shot, never thought id see that unless it was hunting season.  I have JHP rounds for when i carry or use for defense.  Although, that said, the military uses FMJ and they seem to kill people just fine with them.     
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: fangars on February 05, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
Bass Pro shop and I think Ace has some of the pallet of bird shot they got in last week. I will check and see when I go back for some hardware again.
Title: Re: AMMO-Where and how much
Post by: fangars on February 07, 2013, 07:46:58 PM
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