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General Discussion => Guns => Topic started by: AZXterra410 on January 22, 2013, 09:35:49 AM

Title: Gun Recs
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 22, 2013, 09:35:49 AM
Looking for a 9mm handgun to keep in the X.

Recommendations?
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: 11Pro4X on January 22, 2013, 10:37:52 AM
Looking for a 9mm handgun to keep in the X.

Recommendations?

Sig sauer sp2022!  9mm and it's $389
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: Thetaxguy on January 22, 2013, 10:46:49 AM
+1 for the 2022. I made a convert out of Marcin.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 22, 2013, 11:15:04 AM
Whered you get urs?
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: 11Pro4X on January 22, 2013, 11:21:52 AM
Whered you get urs?

Gun show here in PHX.  From a place down in Tucson they were up here.  I can't think of the name but I am sure Shawn will chime in shortly.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: Thetaxguy on January 22, 2013, 11:39:38 AM
I can't remember the vendor's name. But Marcin is right; they are based out of Tucson.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: 11Pro4X on January 22, 2013, 11:45:10 AM
Here is the link!

http://www.sngtactical.com/

Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: sunny1881 on January 22, 2013, 12:10:33 PM
Ruger p95 9mm and its about $350 out the door, thats what I carry.

www.quickguns.com in Mesa is where I got mine.

(http://www.ruger.com/products/p95/images/13009.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: 11Pro4X on January 22, 2013, 12:12:20 PM
Ruger p95 9mm and its about $350 out the door, thats what I carry.

www.quickguns.com in Mesa is where I got mine.

(http://www.ruger.com/products/p95/images/13009.jpg)

No offense but the quality of a Ruger compared to a Sig Sauer is not there.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: sunny1881 on January 22, 2013, 12:24:55 PM
Too each is own, I dont shoot mine a ton and dont conceal carry daily. Mine is for trail runs, camping and recreational shooting rarely. So it works for me, although I have a friend that has had one for 10+ years and shoots it regularly(Army Ranger) and with normal cleaning has never had an issue.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 22, 2013, 12:26:54 PM
The thing I have noticed about asking gun recs is that they are as varied as people who own guns...
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: 11Pro4X on January 22, 2013, 12:32:44 PM
Yeah I carry everyday so IMO if you do you want a gun that is proven and you know it will shoot when you need it to.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: paintsnow on January 22, 2013, 12:41:01 PM
I also carry daily, but i don't understand the "I rarely use it" argument for validating lower quality, less reliable guns. Why risk it if your planning to depend on it during a trail ride. Only carrying when you think you may need it is another topic.

Its like buying a dedicated crawler but not getting a reliable one. Even if its not a daily driver, do you want to worry about or deal with break downs when you are driving it?
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: sunny1881 on January 22, 2013, 12:54:44 PM
Like I said before I have a friend who has had one for over 10 years and never had an issue, so I would say its pretty reliable.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: paintsnow on January 22, 2013, 02:19:15 PM
So one data point makes it reliable?

I'm not saying it's a bad gun but I always recommend a high quality and proven pistol when it comes to a self defense gun. I don't see any police departments using the Ruger.

government agencies have a lot more money and time to run thousands of rounds through multiple guns. there are several models I can think of where reliability is very dependent on serial number. Xxx1 might never fail but xxx2 may not be able to get through magazine without failing
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: sunny1881 on January 22, 2013, 02:32:54 PM
I also have a friend who has a glock 9mm he's had for about 6 years and he hates it (which police carry everyday) because it has had multiple jamming problems not discarding the cartridge, he's taken it in and had it fixed/tinker'ed with and it still happens, he would replace it if he had the money but his wife is in college and is waiting.

Either way, we can go back and forth all day, some have had good experiences with one and some not with others, in the end, I have a hard time believing the Ruger I have is a POS you are all making it out to be. It works for me and my friend and Im happy with my purchase.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: 11Pro4X on January 22, 2013, 02:38:28 PM
Well you never hear of a Sig or HK jamming!  Just had to throw that out there!
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: paintsnow on January 22, 2013, 02:50:22 PM
Maybe your friend has a limp wrist
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: Thetaxguy on January 22, 2013, 02:59:33 PM
While I like my XD-9, I prefer the Sig 2022 for it's da/sa attributes. 

Many international federal agencies are bring the 2022 on at the tune of 100k-200k units per contract.  While the aftermarket for the 2022 is lacking, the hope is that with the influx of police trade-ins, the support will be forth coming.

However, like azxterra410 stated, opinions vary. I would suggest you rent a few firearms and send a couple downrange.  The XD has a different feel than the XDM, just as the 2022 has a different feel than the 226. 

Oh, and size does matter.  What are you going to do with it when you're not in your vehicle?  A full sized sidearm is much harder to conceal carry without showing an outline.

Food for thought.

-Shawn
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 22, 2013, 03:20:52 PM
TBH I don't know that I will ever carry concealed regularly. Maybe after a few years of getting more practice under my belt but I am noob enough to not feel comfortable with that yet.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: sunny1881 on January 22, 2013, 03:36:22 PM
The P95 is DA/SA as well.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: Thetaxguy on January 22, 2013, 03:43:55 PM
Ok... Then why would you carry in your vehicle?  I don't mean to kick you in the nuts, but do you think you will be more comfortable wielding a firearm and driving at the same time rather than presenting your firearm from a steady shooters position while walking down the sidewalk?  You are going to be hard pressed to find a course that deals with the proper sidearm handling from a vehicle.

Just my two cents, do the rest of us a favor: either get some traing on becoming comfortable or leave the firearm at home.  The last thing we need is some politician pushing a "gun control" law through because some inexperienced gun owner shot himself, or even worse, someone else unintentionally.

If you are in a position that you fear for your safety while inside your vehicle, remove yourself from the situation. Don't draw your firearm in a defensive gesture. You may end up hurting you chances for a favorable outcome.

Remember, don't point your firearm at anything that you do not intend to destroy.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: paintsnow on January 22, 2013, 03:57:28 PM
Andrew, if you are interested in a great training course, led by a great instructor you may be familiar with, shoot me a text, i can give you more details
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 22, 2013, 04:10:09 PM
The idea of keeping one in the vehicle is not to literally be shooting FROM the vehicle, but rather to have access to one when out and about, offroading, camping ect. I keep the one I have at home where I sleep for home defense and would like to have another gun so I have one for other things. I understand everyones concerns with rookie gun owners, and I am one in terms of alot of people but I have been around them and used them enough that you need not fear me shooting my foot off. That being said I do intend on taking a good class at some point in the near future now that I have the time for it.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 22, 2013, 04:51:11 PM
My old man has several handguns, he said he will give me a few to take out and try so I will see what feels best.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: fangars on January 22, 2013, 09:52:13 PM
Give the XDM 4.5" barrel 9mm a try.

I had a dwindling list and that was the final choice.

Sig was on the list, s&w M&P, the original XD and a few others.
I presently carry a s&w 3913tsw daily. When I can afford I will be moving to the XDM.

(http://www.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/spg_XDM9202HCSP.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 22, 2013, 11:13:33 PM
I have the XD 40, when I looked at all the competition I was very impressed by it.  To me I was unhappy with the S&W trigger pull, I don't remember which model but if you move to the higher end S&W they correct that issue, but then your talking 800 or so.  Also found the Glocks to be a little more expensive and I like the round indicator that the XD comes with.  I don't like having to switch a safety so I didnt like the Sig, Taurus, or Ruger.  That's how I made my choice. 

I will say I find it a little large for me as a CC, although i can make it work.  I am considering a shorty 357 as a CC just as something I can always have on me.  Or maybe a 9mm single stack.         
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: 11Pro4X on January 22, 2013, 11:16:23 PM
Sig SP2022 has the round indicator and no safety and its 389! 
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 22, 2013, 11:59:03 PM
No trigger safety but if you like it then it is a good choice. 
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: 11Pro4X on January 23, 2013, 12:07:28 AM
No trigger safety but if you like it then it is a good choice. 

No safety at all
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 23, 2013, 12:26:53 AM
Im also considering the new XD S.
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: mjepps72 on March 05, 2013, 11:14:17 AM
I carry concealed and in auto an XD 45 and it works flawlessly.  Very rarely needs to be cleaned.  No safety (except for the grip safety) so fast response.  I also have an XD 40 Sub compact that's smaller but for me is harder to shoot and aim with the smaller barrel. 
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: AZXterra410 on March 05, 2013, 01:29:31 PM
I ended up with a S&W M&P pro 9mm, with a few upgrades, trit night sites and a couple mags... thing shoots like a dream
Title: Re: Gun Recs
Post by: 07offroadx on March 05, 2013, 06:19:20 PM
I open carry a Springfield XD 9mm. Love the feel of it. It's light and easy to clean. But I would prefer something slimmer and not so bulky that is a single stack. Ideally I would want a Walther P99. Although they aren't made anymore I would love to have one. The only thing I don't like about the Sig 2022 for carrying constantly is the fact that it is still somewhat bulky and it has a hammer. I prefer not to have a hammer on a conceal/open carry.