Arizona All Nissan Club

General Discussion => Open Discussions => Topic started by: AZXterra410 on January 24, 2013, 10:17:32 AM

Title: BLM vs STL
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 24, 2013, 10:17:32 AM
What is the difference between BLM land and State Trust land?

Anyone know a good resource on this?

The reason I ask is when going backroad exploring and camping I want to be more informed as to where is kosher to be and where isnt... and where can i just pitch a tent and set up camp and where can i not?
Title: Re: BLM vs STL
Post by: AZ-Ted on January 24, 2013, 11:10:13 AM
The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) lands are managed Federally, and are open for recreation / camping without any permits (unless otherwise posted).  There are some restrictions (length of stay, distance from watering holes, Wilderness areas, etc.).  For more information, check out this link:  http://www.blm.gov (http://www.blm.gov)

The Phoenix BLM office is located at 21605 N 7th Ave, Phoenix, AZ  85027-2929 (7th Ave and Deer Valley Rd)


The Arizona State Trust Land (STL) is managed by the State of Arizona.  These lands require a permit to recreate / camp on.  For more information, check out this link:  http://www.azland.gov/programs/natural/recreation_permit.htm (http://www.azland.gov/programs/natural/recreation_permit.htm)

The Arizona State Land Department office is located in downtown Phoenix at 1616 W. Adams, Phoenix, AZ 85007
Title: Re: BLM vs STL
Post by: AZXterra410 on January 24, 2013, 11:15:33 AM
Thanks ted! I knew you would be the guy to know.

Now which one allows for shooting? BLM?
Title: Re: BLM vs STL
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 24, 2013, 02:57:37 PM
But if I buy a fishing/hunting license I am also good?
Title: Re: BLM vs STL
Post by: AZ-Ted on January 24, 2013, 07:34:05 PM
Thanks ted! I knew you would be the guy to know.

Now which one allows for shooting? BLM?

BLM allows shooting.

State Trust Land does not.  The only time you can legally discharge a firearm on State Trust Land is when you are hunting something that is "in season".
Title: Re: BLM vs STL
Post by: AZ-Ted on January 24, 2013, 07:45:13 PM
But if I buy a fishing/hunting license I am also good?


If you choose to recreate (including driving) on State Trust Land using your fishing/hunting license as a permit, you have to be able to prove that you are actually going hunting or fishing.  They may ask to see your fishing equipment.  They may ask you what you are hunting...be sure to tell them something that is in season.  You can also be "scouting" for an upcoming hunt, but you may be asked additional questions.

Personally, I purchase the $25 STL permit and carry it with me.  That way I don't have to worry about what is in season / what is not.  I don't have to bring any hunting / fishing equipment with me when I offroad.  I've met up with very few BLM / AZ Game and Fish folks out on the trails, but they are out there.
Title: Re: BLM vs STL
Post by: Hammer (Avi) on January 25, 2013, 01:10:17 AM
Thanks for the info.  Honestly I think AZ does a good job managing lang, game, and fish.  So I dont really mind giving them the extra cash.