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Offline AZXTERRA 1994 (Jake)

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Anybody with welding experience... need advice
« on: April 28, 2015, 01:06:43 AM »
So I am new to welding and my buddy and I have been messing around with his MIG Miller 220 welder. I really would like to get better at welding and am wanting to purchase my own setup. I am looking into getting an Arc welder setup and want to know what to look for when I buy and what to buy as a sort of "starter" kit. Also, how thick can a Arc welder weld? Should I look into getting a different kind of welder?
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Re: Anybody with welding experience... need advice
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2015, 08:42:07 AM »
If you get a TIG setup let me know...Myself & my friends have lots of plans for it. :)
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Re: Anybody with welding experience... need advice
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2015, 09:52:18 PM »
I've got a miller Diversion 180 TIG, it works pretty great, but tig's are freaking expensive compared to the others. I do a lot of fine detail work and adding small amounts of metal for gunsmithing, but I've welded up to 1/4 steel so far and it's held up great. TIG machines take up a lot longer to weld bigger projects, and are more difficult to learn. MIG is awesome for beginners, and works for some pretty thick steels depending on which machine you get. Arc is actually more difficult to learn than mig, because you have to take care to feed the stick in consistently, Whatever welder you do end up with buying, pay attention to duty cycles and what not, you don't want to be stuck welding for only one minute out of ten.

What kind of things are you planning to weld? It makes a huge difference in what kind of welders would be best recommended!

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Re: Anybody with welding experience... need advice
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2015, 08:51:39 AM »
I would definitely look at a Mig. Even if you don't get a gas setup right away. I don't have much experience with stick arc welders but they always look like a PITA to run.

I've used a Hobart 140 for years (for hobbies, not for work) and it generally can weld everything I needed to, but overheats on long welding sessions if you are dealing with 12ga or higher, though I have built and repaired many things from 1/8", 3/16, and 1/4" steel. A 220V welder would probably be the ticked if you were planning on doing a lot of fabrication.

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Re: Anybody with welding experience... need advice
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2015, 11:25:40 AM »
Okay, I've narrowed it down to what I need to weld (automotive, and pretty much hobby welding) and I've decided to go with a MIG just because of how user friendly they are. My uncle was trying to convince me to get an Arc welder but the stick issue seems quite annoying. 220V is the direction I'm heading


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Re: Anybody with welding experience... need advice
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2015, 01:09:37 PM »
Definitely go 220, even if you don't have an outlet, it's super easy to wire one up if need be, as long as your circuit box has an open slot for a new breaker, and only costs about 30 or 40 bucks.

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Re: Anybody with welding experience... need advice
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2015, 01:37:35 PM »
Really? Good to know. The place I'm moving into has one in the house which isn't connected to the garage, it's the same outlet that a dryer uses right?


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Re: Anybody with welding experience... need advice
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2015, 09:53:44 PM »
It's the same voltage, but the likely the plug/ preexisting wiring may not be rated for the amperage draw. For example a house dryer may be 240 volts, but only have a 10 amp plug and wire, but your machine will need a different plug style because it could draw 15-25 amps. If that's the case it would still be easier and safer to install your own outlet in your garage. I got lucky because my circuit panel was literally on the opposite side of the wall from where I needed the new outlet to be, but It wouldn't have been a big deal to run the wire another 15-20 feet. Just jump up a gauge. I would go 2 or 4 gauges higher of wire than recommended for that current and distance. Can't be too safe!

A lot of people are freaked out by AC currents as opposed to DC, but it's hardly different. JUST BE SAFE AND FLIP OFF THE MAIN BREAKER ANY TIME YOUR HANDS ARE IN THE BOX, and remember the top two lines in are still hot!
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Re: Anybody with welding experience... need advice
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2015, 04:16:07 PM »
Being in the industry I need to know  how many amps is your equipment. If you have a 180 Amp Like a Miller you will need at least 30 amps at the wall. If you sporting a 250 amp machine  you will need at least  amps at the wall.     A duel voltage equipment may be the trick because  you have the option of 110 or 220 voltage.

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It depends on where you box is. If you box is in your garage you can have a electrician do the job for about 500.oo bucks. However if your wiring is dates of your box is on the other side of the house it could turn into a 1500.00 Job.
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