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Please see the attached memo regarding public meeting's for Travel Management in the Black Canyon Corridor (New River, Black Canyon City, Dewey, etc).  Please pass on the dates and locations to anyone you know who would be interested in providing comment's.

IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD, THIS IS YOUR CHANCE!

NOTICE OF PUBLIC SCOPING

The Bureau of Land Management (BLM), Hassayampa Field Office invites your participation in
the development of the Black Canyon Corridor Travel Management Plan and Environmental
Assessment (TMP/EA). This TMP/EA includes the Upper Agua Fria River, Bumble Bee and
Lower Black Canyon Trail travel management areas and encompasses the communities of Black
Canyon City, Mayer, New River and Dewey-Humboldt in Yavapai and Maricopa counties,
Arizona (see attached Planning Area map). The Black Canyon National Recreation Trail
(BCNR T) is central to this area.

Travel management is a comprehensive approach to the administration of travel and transportation
networks of roads, primitive routes, trails, and areas for both motorized and non-motorized uses.
Travel management planning includes the inventory and mapping, route designations, and other
measures necessary for providing access to and across public lands for a variety of uses. This
notification is being provided to BLM right-of-way holders, recreational users, grazing allotment
permittees, mining claim holders, and anyone else who has expressed an interest in this project in
the past.

The upcoming TMP/EA will analyze the direct, indirect and cumulative effects from the BLM's
designation of an approved travel network. At this early stage during public scoping, public
participation will assist the BLM in the development of the TMP/EA. Through this process, the
BLM will comply with the obligations under the National Environmental Policy Act and National
Historic Preservation Act. The BLM has scheduled the following open houses:

Monday May 15, 2017 from 6 - 8 pm
Deer Valley Community Center
2001 W. Wahalla Lane
Phoenix, Arizona 85027

Tuesday May 16, 2017 from 6-8 pm
Mayer High School ( old library)
17300 E. Mule Deer Drive
Spring Valley, Arizona 86333

During these open house-style meetings, BLM staff will be available and maps of the travel
network inventory will be available for review. There will be tables with personnel with maps to
discuss the project and answer your questions.

The BLM had initiated public scoping in 2014 but was unable to move forward with the planning
effort. If you participated in 2014, we encourage you to continue to participate with this newest
effort. Topics to be thinking about to better prepare for these meetings include:

• How do I use this area and what route access do I need to conduct my business or favorite
recreational activity?
• What facilities and/or amenities would you suggest to make your use more enjoyable, and
accommodate current use and future growth in the area such as trailheads, staging areas,
information kiosks, etc., and where would they be located?
• If you're a recreational user of the BCNRT, what suggestions do you have in terms of
connectivity to communities, loop opportunities, user conflict mitigation, etc.?
• Are there specific routes you would like to be designated as closed due to user conflicts,
route proliferation, etc.?


This 30-day public scoping period is from May 8 until June 6, 2017.

Information on this project will be available at the following website: http://bit.ly/2oMhl0C

Comments on the proposed project can be submitted the following ways:
• Electronically by emailing them to: blkcanyon@blm.gov
• You may mail your comments to:
BLM Hassayampa Field Office
ATTN: Tammy Pike
Black Canyon
21605 North 7th Avenue
Phoenix, Arizona 85027
• You may fax your comments to: Tammy Pike at 623-580-5580.

Privacy notice: Before including your address, phone number, email address, or any other
personal identifying information in your comments, be advised that your entire comment(s),
including personal identifying information, may be made publicly available at any time. While
individuals may request that the BLM withhold personal identifying information from public view,
the BLM cannot guarantee it will be able to do so. If you wish to withhold your personal
information, you must state this prominently at the beginning of your comment(s). We will make
all submissions from organizations and businesses available for public disclosure in their entirety.

The BLM anticipates that the TMP/EA will be available for public review in early 2018. Note: if
you wish to remain on the project mailing list and be notified of the documents availability, please
send us a reply to blkcanyon@blm.gov.

If you have questions, please contact Tammy Pike at 623-580-5586 or blkcanyon@blm.gov.

Sincerely,

Rem Hawes
Field Manager
Hassayampa Field Office
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Here's another recent memo:

Black Canyon Corridor Travel Management Plan
 
Thanks to all of you who attended the BLM Black Canyon Corridor meetings in Phoenix and Mayer this week. We had a good showing, could have used more people but I really appreciate those that did come out. It is very important that we attend these meetings. It looked like we were the main interest at the meetings.
 
There are a few things that we all need to do before June 7, when the scoping process ends for the Black Canyon Corridor TMP.
 
Your comments are very important. The following are things that you can do to keep our roads and trails open.

When making comments to the BLM include what your recreation is, 4 wheel drive, rock crawler, etc.

Please write all of your comments down, even if you already told the BLM when you were at the meetings. Email these to Tammy Pike so there will be a record. I would also like to be copied on those emails. These would be comments on roads, trails, routes, facilities, permits, etc. anything that you discussed with the BLM.

Document all conversations with BLM and send those in to BLM as well and please send a copy to me for my records.
Make sure every road, route and trail that you want to see is on the maps. There were comments made at the meetings that not all of the 4 wheel drive trails and technical trails (rock crawling) were shown on the maps. If you don’t get that information into the BLM you will lose those trails.

The original plan was done in 2014, so routes may have been deleted or forgotten on the new maps. Make sure you get them in there or you will lose them.

When making comments reference the quadrant number and the map number so they know what you are referring to. All of the maps are on-line and they should also be available in KLM format soon.

Use the on-line maps and draw your roads, routes and trails in. Then send that with your comments to Tammy Pike.
The website is: Black Canyon Corridor
 
Contact:
Tammy Pike, Outdoor Recreation Planner
21605 North 7th Avenue, Phoenix, AZ 85027
Fax Comments: (623) 580-5586
Email: blkcanyon@blm.gov

DOI-BLM-AZ-P010-2017-0013-EA (Black Canyon Corridor Travel Management Plan)
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I have read, and reread all of these letters and can anyone provide a summery of what exactly the proposed changes are.  These seem very vague, and words like, "this plan was originally assembled in 2014 so some trails may have been lost or deleted.   Make sure to comment or they will go away."  What does that mean?  Why do trails get deleted or forgotten?  Are they planning to upgrade some trails and close others?  Are they re purposing roads for mining use only again?   
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I have read, and reread all of these letters and can anyone provide a summery of what exactly the proposed changes are.  These seem very vague, and words like, "this plan was originally assembled in 2014 so some trails may have been lost or deleted.   Make sure to comment or they will go away."  What does that mean?  Why do trails get deleted or forgotten?  Are they planning to upgrade some trails and close others?  Are they re purposing roads for mining use only again?   

To get a better understanding you would have to attend the meetings. However, the link to the planning website has documentation to read up on that might help if you plan on sending in your voice.

DOI-BLM-AZ-P010-2017-0013-EA (Black Canyon Corridor Travel Management Plan)
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As I said, I read all of that.  So I need to take time out of my schedule to go to a meeting just to find out what the meeting is about?  Sounds shady.
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As I said, I read all of that.  So I need to take time out of my schedule to go to a meeting just to find out what the meeting is about?  Sounds shady.

Yes, attending a meeting might answer questions that were not answered in the 10 plus documents that were posted on the project website. I agree it seems shady the dates an times of the meetings but there is a lot of information, a lot of which I haven't looked at. Bravo for you looking at all of it. You can also contact the project coordinator to ask questions if they are not being answered on the project site.

I think that the letter from the US Department of the Interior explained enough for me to able to answer and submit my comments. I am reviewing the maps and looking at trails that I know I have crossed to see what's different if anything. I think many of the routes on the maps which are not part of the current trails are because people made their own, but if they need to be part of the BLM project to maintain them that's kind of the info they are looking for, same as when we were at the OHV Ambassador / Club Leadership meeting.

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So some of you may just now be hearing about this as this travel management plan is at it's next stage. Well, it's not new news, it's been in the works for some time as you can see I originally posted about this back in May 2017, so it has been a year since their initial approved scope and they have now updated their maps with options for which they are trying to get input.

The BLM can not manage all the trails out there and again, many of them were not marked or put their by a land management office. They were created by those not treading lightly, so keep that in mind when you see trails marked for closure, or limited use. The map covers state, federal, and private lands which the trails cross in and out of. If you were creating a road map of your own, how would you do it based on the fact you have to cross multiple properties belonging to multiple neighbors...and keep it as simple as possible. And make everyone happy...

The BLM representatives are very understanding and want to protect everyone's interests, if you are familiar with the trails they have marked and can speak to them about why or why not they should be altered please do so respectfully.

There are OHV Ambassadors in the club who get to see and hear about the goings on from land management representatives in person, and can be a voice for our fellow offroaders. If there is something we can help with let us know.

Here is the link to the maps, I'd suggest also reading the pdf presentation, it offers a general outline for the feedback they need.

https://blm-egis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=d0029d5a7b754078937512d3c751a52d

PDF Management Plan
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