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Warranty Extension (2nd Gen SMOD Related)
« on: November 19, 2012, 01:49:48 PM »
Hey everyone, just some news to share today. I got a letter from Nissan corp in the mail today in regards to a "Warranty Extension Notification"

Here's the gist of it:

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Nissan previously extended your vehicle's New Vehicle Limited Warranty as it applies to the radiator assembly and its component parts from 3 years/36,000 miles to 8 years/80,000 miles, whichever comes first.

What follows is some information regarding the SMOD problem some 2nd gen Xs with automatic transmission develop...

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Nissan is pleased to announce an additional extension of the coverage of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty on the radiator assembly, subject to certain customer co-pays that vary with age/mileage above 8 years/80,000 miles, to 10 years/100,000 miles (whichever occurs first). This extension covers the radiator and component parts, and includes damage, repairs, replacement and related towing resulting from this issue.

With the additional extention, the following warranty coverage will now apply:

-Up to 8 years/80,000 miles, whichever comes first, extended warranty coverage applies with no customer co-pay

-After 8 years/80,000 miles, whichever comes first, up to 9 years/90,000 miles, whichever comes first, extended warranty coverage applies with customer co-pay in the amount of $2,500.

-After 9 years/90,000 miles, whichever comes first, up to 10 years/100,000 miles, whichever comes first, extended warranty coverage applies with customer co-pay in the amount of $3,000.

So my Xterra is already well beyond the mileage for this to apply to, but anyone else out there worried about the Strawberry Milkshake of Death with less than 100,000 miles on your vehicle now have some factory protection even if it's not completely covered.

More information can be found at: NissanAssist.com

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Re: Warranty Extension (2nd Gen SMOD Related)
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2012, 10:08:18 PM »
Its funny because I am less than 8 years and 80,000 miles now but already did the bypass (basically saving Nissan's a**), but I almost want to have the SMOD right now, to get a new radiator and tranny installed and then do the bypass with the new stuff installed.

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Re: Warranty Extension (2nd Gen SMOD Related)
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2012, 10:12:56 PM »
Haha, and seeing how I'm at 150k+ miles with no indication of it ever having had a SMOD replacement, I probably should consider doing the bypass ;D

I'm hopeful that Nissan's Matic-S recommendation does what it's supposed to though and keeps this thing going for a good while to come.

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Re: Warranty Extension (2nd Gen SMOD Related)
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2012, 08:01:35 PM »
You need to do the bypass STAT!

The tranny fluid Matic S or J has nothing to do with it. The bottom of the radiator will rot out over time allowing radiator fluid to mix in the tranny fluid that flows through the bottom of the radiator and of course then travels into the tranny itself, making the milkshake of death. With 150k I would do the bypass right away, its only a matter of time for you and the SMOD takes a little time to mix up good and shut the tranny down, before you know its even going on the tranny is done and you are a sitting duck, out around $5k from I here.

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Re: Warranty Extension (2nd Gen SMOD Related)
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2012, 01:07:11 AM »
5k is on the cheap side...

And the work is a huge _____ use your imagination.

Basically it probably wouldn't be worth doing the work if you look at how much your truck is worth based on the market value...

Trust me, its easier to swap hoses then replace the tranny. And the way nissan engineered the truck, basically the exhaust has to go from passenger headers back, and there is no room to reach bellhousing bolts. No fun.

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Re: Warranty Extension (2nd Gen SMOD Related)
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2012, 08:52:18 AM »
Yeah take it from Filip, this year prior to going to Moab he was doing a routine Poor Mans Flush and discovered the SMOD on his girlfriends X and I believe its been out of commision ever since...

By the way Filip have you finally gotten it back on the road?

EDIT: Saw on thenewx its in and running, congrats!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2012, 02:53:32 PM by sunny1881 »

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Re: Warranty Extension (2nd Gen SMOD Related)
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2012, 10:01:36 PM »
I haven't done the bypass.  I'm at 126K miles with no issues yet.  That being said, I switched to Amsoil ATF at 20K miles.  Many of the SMOD issues are with 2nd gens that originally came with Matic J fluid  (the first 3 or 4 model years).  It is very interesting that the newer models come with the reformulated tranny fluid - Matic S.  Could just be a coincidence, but maybe not.
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Re: Warranty Extension (2nd Gen SMOD Related)
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2012, 10:54:13 PM »
So are you saying that the belief is the Matic J ATF fluid has something in it that is causing the break down of the bottom of the radiator where the antifeeze and ATF is seperate from each other? Meaning Matic S and/or Amsoil does not have this component that is causing premature rotting of the radiator ultimately bringing on the SMOD?

If thats what your saying, I find that hard to believe but I suppose it is a possibility.

I believe over time they are just breaking down and rotting out naturally like all parts and radiators eventually do, some obviously sooner than others but I'm not convinced the Matic J ATF is the actual culprit. Where you live I believe may be a factor in speeding up the rotting process, i.e. cold weather and snow with salt and rust build up quicker on the vehicles helping this process develop faster. Arizona aside from the small areas that recieve snow may be better for our radiators not having as many SMOD victims because of the normally hot and dry weather.

Either way Im certainly no expert just my theory and I may be way off but it seems Nissan has no answer to the actual cause either just a replacement of the same parts and if your over 80k miles you have to pay for half of it and if your over 100k well then your hosed.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2012, 10:57:19 PM by sunny1881 »

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Re: Warranty Extension (2nd Gen SMOD Related)
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2017, 06:13:33 PM »
Its funny because I am less than 8 years and 80,000 miles now but already did the bypass (basically saving Nissan's a**), but I almost want to have the SMOD right now, to get a new radiator and tranny installed and then do the bypass with the new stuff installed.



how do you do the bypass? i need to do mine now

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Re: Warranty Extension (2nd Gen SMOD Related)
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2017, 09:18:30 AM »
There is tons of information on the website the new X. below is the link. its super easy really.

 http://www.thenewx.org/forum/11-powertrain-driveline/36132-radiator-trans-issues-collection-salient-threads.html
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Re: Warranty Extension (2nd Gen SMOD Related)
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2017, 09:53:56 AM »
There is tons of information on the website the new X. below is the link. its super easy really.

 http://www.thenewx.org/forum/11-powertrain-driveline/36132-radiator-trans-issues-collection-salient-threads.html


Thanks that was really helpful