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Author Topic: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship  (Read 9375 times)

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GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship
« on: December 11, 2012, 09:58:25 PM »
We should discuss this again since its that time. 

We have some money and in 2013 we should IMO sponsor gone.

What are your thoughts?  This is huge event and lots of exposure for AZXC.

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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2012, 03:39:20 PM »
Marcin, where does the money go and how is it used? Im in for sponsoring as well, just curious to where the money goes and what it helps pay for, etc...?

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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2012, 03:46:05 PM »
John GhostX will be able to elaborate more;

I know it goes to keep trails open in Moab (so we can continue to keep going up there) it goes to pay for insurance and permits for the event.  There is a lot of expenses that it goes for.  Trust me Sunny I have questioned it last year and have had my own heart burn over how things were handled in previous gone's.  That is the past though and I have spoken with John about it and the new group is setting up a very transparent site so folks know what funds are being used for.

We can either sponsor the event with $$$ or we can go out and buy something, donate it and have it raffled off.  Lets all discuss this and I am sure John will jump in to answer you question in more depth!

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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2012, 12:43:00 AM »
It seemed that last year the sponsorship was mainly to grow the group. What are the results? I know in my business if advertising dollars aren't working I don't repeat the advertising. So on that note, what were the results. How many members did we grow from the event sponsorship? With members paying $25 per year and I believe we sponsored $500 for the event, did we gain 25 members, at least 10 new members, from the endeavor?

There are a lot of local groups, events and runs that might better benefit from our sponsorship. I think this should be reviewed by the membership.

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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2012, 10:18:25 AM »
^^ I agree somewhat with Xtasy statement, we could still sponsor GoneMoab but maybe not to the tune of $500 rate. I think getting more involved locally with benefit runs, etc... is a good idea, Ive met a few different good people in the last year from other clubs, i.e. Copperstate4wheelers and they do some fun, good local stuff as well.

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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2012, 10:29:39 AM »
We did gain at least 25 members.  Last year we went from 17 sponsoring members to 43.  So IMO it worked.  Not saying we should throw money out the window but maybe donate a prize for the raffle or something?

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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2012, 10:36:09 AM »
We did gain at least 25 members.  Last year we went from 17 sponsoring members to 43.  So IMO it worked.  Not saying we should throw money out the window but maybe donate a prize for the raffle or something?

Thats a good idea, maybe buy $100-$200 in gear or even gift card and donate for the raffle, we did gain members this year but I wouldnt attribute all to GoneMoab sponsorship, probably 5-10 or so from that and the rest from Marcin's and everybody's word of mouth advertising.

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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2012, 05:07:01 PM »
I am always for supporting an even like Moab. If people don't support it, it will eventually go away.

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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2012, 08:08:05 PM »
I agree that we need to sponsor what we take part in, and this brings up another point.  There are several events every year that are important to AZXC.  Gone Moab is one, Tread lightly is another, and the Fat Tire Bike ride as well.  Please tell me if I am missing one.  I dont think AZXC can right now afford to sponsors all these events, but we can deffinetly sponsor one and probably do a raffle as well.  I think we should get a list of cherities people think we should invest in, and then vote on which one we donate to this year.   
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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2013, 09:09:38 AM »
I'm not sold on the idea of sponsoring gone Moab at the $500 level again.  Tomas has a point when he mentions that the AZXC dues are $25 per member per year.  For us to give $500 to gone Moab this year, that requires 20 members' dues to cover.

Other events that we have sponsored in the past are:  Chili Cookoff, Fat Tire, and various cleanups (Table Mesa Cleanup, 4 Peaks Pickup, etc.).  The only other outflow of cash (that I can think of) is to support the Tread Lightly! organization.
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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2013, 02:33:00 PM »
After putting a lot of thought into this and analyzing all the comments here are my thoughts;

A cost analysis of the data that I have the gain to AZXC was not worth the expenditure.

We donated $501 last year but to my knowledge not a single rep has reached out to anyone from AZXC to thank the club for last year, not has anyone solicited anything from us for the upcoming year.

Conclusion that I come up with is no sponsorship this year. 

This is my opinion for the club.  I do volunteer my time for the event but that's separate from AZXC.

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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2013, 10:03:37 AM »
After putting a lot of thought into this and analyzing all the comments here are my thoughts;

A cost analysis of the data that I have the gain to AZXC was not worth the expenditure.

We donated $501 last year but to my knowledge not a single rep has reached out to anyone from AZXC to thank the club for last year, not has anyone solicited anything from us for the upcoming year.

Conclusion that I come up with is no sponsorship this year.  

This is my opinion for the club.  I do volunteer my time for the event but that's separate from AZXC.

Marcin -

We have been trying to nail down all of the specifics for sponsorship.  I will take the blame and apologize for not getting sponsor information out on the schedule that was comparative to last year.

The event sincerely appreciates all of AZXC's efforts last year in both sponsorship and attendance.  

Anything that you could do would be appreciated this year, but mainly we would like to see everyone from AZXC come out, participate, and have a great time.

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« Last Edit: January 04, 2013, 10:15:13 AM by GhostX »

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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2013, 10:18:21 AM »
Marcin, where does the money go and how is it used? Im in for sponsoring as well, just curious to where the money goes and what it helps pay for, etc...?

This year the event proceeds will be split.  Money generated from registration will go towards event costs (arena rentals, t-shirts, stickers, banners, permit fees for both BLM and STLA) and the goal is for all raffle proceeds to be donated to either national or local trail advocacy groups.

The group is looking at several non profit trail advocacy groups, the Blue Ribbon Coaliton, Friends For Wheelin' Club and the Red Rocks 4 Wheelers Club in Moab, Utah.

I think it is a good idea for AZXC to keep their member donated money local, but support the event through participation.  Just my .02.

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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2013, 10:22:58 AM »
If our donations go towards the event donating to another cause, I say keep the money in state.


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Re: GoneMoab 2013 Sponsorship?
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2013, 11:45:27 AM »
I agree, I still like the idea of getting some items for a total of around $150-$200 to donate for the raffle. Gift Cards, recovery strap, D-rings, etc... stuff like that.

Im going to Moab this year and most likely Andrew and Marcin as well, Im sure we could take the items with us if they are given to me prior to departure.

 



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