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Author Topic: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)  (Read 12115 times)

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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2013, 11:45:48 AM »
Marcin, stop picking on people - and don't say it's coincidence that this is being brought up now. We can talk about it at the meeting, but the newspaper doesn't set a price range for items that people sell in ads in it, nor does Craigslist. So I'm just going to say that part of business is that a seller sets a price, a potential buyer makes an offer, then negotiation happens. I don't think we want any part of that, I know I certainly don't want any liability in people's personal transactions. My suggestion is we stay good and well away from that.

Back on topic, what time are we setting for the meeting and mod day on the 21st?

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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2013, 11:58:41 AM »
Rev if that is the case then anyone should be able to post up whatever they want about an item in that thread and not get it deleted.

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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2013, 12:05:47 PM »
But once we're involved then how much responsibility are we accepting on items that get sold? Does it then become our responsibility to mediate deals? What happens when someone buys something that turns out to be broken? If we're filtering ads doesn't it make it our responsibility to make sure the items are in the condition specified in the ad? If the seller disappears and the buyer is dissatisfied would we have to reimburse them?

There are a lot of legalities to consider when getting involved with how sales take place which is why most ad sources don't get involved at all. The best we can do is set rules as far as what kind of items are allowed to be posted and not allowed to be posted. As far as prices go I really think that's starting to cross some legal ground that we don't want to get into without some consultation.

Oh and what time are we setting for the meeting and mod day on the 21st?

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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2013, 12:16:48 PM »
Look at the agreement people agree to when they sign up for the forum.  This waives ALL liability of the club for anything that is posted on here, if its for sale or not so we have already broached the issue of "legality."

As for rules I believe there should be some if its even sell at your own risk and the club will not interfere with any post or set up something more stringent.  Thats up to the club.  Funny how everyone will talk crap about this individuals posts and pricing but no one has the balls to call him out on it like I have. 


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Re: Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2013, 02:46:20 PM »
Isn't this a thread about a meeting?!?

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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2013, 03:51:30 PM »
Funny how everyone will talk crap about this individuals posts and pricing but no one has the balls to call him out on it like I have. 

Funny how everyone has such issues with my pricing but yet every item I have listed has sold except for one currently and pretty much all of them were negotiated behind the scenes through PM and seller and buyer were happy.

The club should have some rules regarding buying and selling, I certainly agree.

Here are thenewx rules for buying and selling for the club to have a starting point: I believe #4 in this situation is most important!

1) No spamming the forums or cross-posting. There is no reason to post the same thing in many forums. Cross posts will be all deleted at the moderator's discretion.

2) Thread bumps will be deleted from a thread at the moderators discretion. Please update your thread with pertinent information only.

3) This is not an auction, if you don't post a price or list what you wish to trade for, please use ebay, yahoo, or some other site to sell your stuff.

4) If you disagree with a posted price, DO NOT post your opinions within the buyers or sellers thread about how you can get it at a better price, etc., take it offline with the seller and refrain from flaming, arguing, or generating heated discussions.

5) Please indicate your location (city/State/Province, and zip/ postal code may be useful for shipping information.)

6) When a single item (out of many items listed for sale) sells, update the first post of the thread identifying as **SOLD** .

7) Remember, moderators are sometimes busy. Sometimes we do not read every post. If something is out of line, pm or email a moderator so that we can correct it without a flame war.

8) All classified ads MUST have list a selling price. The only exception to this rule is if you are parting out a car or making an ad w/ multiple listings. Even under these circumstances you still must list prices individually.

9) This isn't a place to charge considerably more or double the retail value of items being sold currently just because there is limited access. There are places like eBay for that.

10) Price hiking is not allowed based on amount of responses.

11) Once an item has sold, please update the end of your thread letting a moderator know it's sold so we they can lock the post.

12) The owners and moderators of the www.thenewx.org are not responsible for any sales that go bad. Buy and Sell at your own risk. If there is a dispute take it up with the person you bought or sold the item from. If we notice a trend from a seller or buyer or if you notice a trend, then email a moderator so we can have the problem taken care of.

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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2013, 03:55:58 PM »
Do we really care that much?

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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2013, 03:57:03 PM »
Marcin does.

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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2013, 03:58:11 PM »
That post was directed more towards him. Getting all worked up over something small.

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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2013, 04:01:03 PM »
I mine as well throw my two cents in here.  I may not think the pricing is reasonable for a specific item, but there may be wheeling and dealing on the side.  And even with that said, setting prices high is just a stance of trying to push for a higher price.  Frankly if his prices are too high, he wont sell his products.  But here is what it all comes down to, I don't want to police the website.  That is why I wont remove the comments that the price is too high, and that is also why I wont delete a for sale thread because I think the price is too high.  This has nothing to do with whether or not the price is too high, this has to do with how much policing I think is necessary.  If the club votes on price setting a current percentage off of retail, or if the club votes no opinions on for sale threads, I will enforce it.  As of now no such rules exist that I know of.  That said I wont tolerate threats or profanity, so keep it to name calling guys.      
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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2013, 04:10:02 PM »
Good stance.

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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2013, 06:02:50 PM »
I'll be there for Broken Arrow but I might head back to Phoenix that evening.

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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2013, 07:57:23 AM »
What is the trail plans for Sunday the 28th if there are any.  Read the thread twice, but did not see anything.

I will be in Flag for a little vacation, and would not mind joining you guys.

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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #43 on: April 17, 2013, 11:21:08 AM »
What is the trail plans for Sunday the 28th if there are any.  Read the thread twice, but did not see anything.

I will be in Flag for a little vacation, and would not mind joining you guys.

I wasn't planning on running any trails Sunday.  But if anyone is interested I am sure we could come up with something. 
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Re: 4/21 and 4/27 Meeting (Trail Rating 0 & 2)
« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2013, 07:20:19 AM »
I wasn't planning on running any trails Sunday.  But if anyone is interested I am sure we could come up with something.

Don't plan anything special for me.  Besides, anything you plan would have to be a super wide trail.  I am about 90 inches wide in the front.